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shira

(30,109 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 04:36 PM Jul 2014

Hamas Interior Ministry To Social Media Activists: Always Call The Dead 'Innocent Civilians'...

Seems western social media, some MSM, & Human Rights NGO's are gladly following Hamas guidelines...

Hamas Interior Ministry To Social Media Activists: Always Call The Dead 'Innocent Civilians'; Don't Post Photos Of Rockets Being Fired From Civilian Population Centers

In light of the recent round of fighting in Gaza, the Hamas interior ministry has issued guidelines to Gaza Strip social media users for reporting events and discussing them with outsiders.

"When speaking to the West, you must use political, rational, and persuasive discourse, and avoid emotional discourse aimed at begging for sympathy. There are elements with a conscience in the world; you must maintain contact with them and activate them for the benefit of Palestine. Their role is to shame the occupation and expose its violations.

"Avoid entering into a political argument with a Westerner aimed at convincing him that the Holocaust is a lie and deceit; instead, equate it with Israel's crimes against Palestinian civilians.

"The narrative of life vs. the narrative of blood: When speaking to an Arab friend, start with the number of martyrs. But when speaking to a Western friend, start with the number of wounded and dead. Be sure to humanize the Palestinian suffering. Try to paint a picture of the suffering of the civilians in Gaza and the West Bank during the occupation's operations and its bombings of cities and villages.

"Do not publish photos of military commanders. Do not mention their names in public, and do not praise their achievements in conversations with foreign friends!"


http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8076.htm
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Hamas Interior Ministry To Social Media Activists: Always Call The Dead 'Innocent Civilians'... (Original Post) shira Jul 2014 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #1
Unreal that so many western social media activists support Hamas shira Jul 2014 #2
The irony of an Israeli propagandist calling out Hamas propagandists... BillZBubb Jul 2014 #3
The OP is about Hamas cognitive warfare. They're wildly successful.... shira Jul 2014 #4
Hamas rejected a cease fire King_David Jul 2014 #5
The Israeli propagandist has been calling 8 and 80 year old males "combat age". HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #6
Israeli policy is many things, and it is not difficult to see why there is not much hope Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author shira Jul 2014 #8
What do u make of Hamas propaganda from the OP? shira Jul 2014 #9
Got a link for the 8 and 80 ? King_David Jul 2014 #15
Of course not. The disinformation is put out there on purpose, hoping to stick. n/t shira Jul 2014 #22
MEMRI Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #10
Deflection. The proper response.... shira Jul 2014 #11
You wish it was brushed under the rug..your sources. Not going to happen. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #12
You should want Hamas exposed for who they are. shira Jul 2014 #13
You object to people knowing your sources? I can't imagine why. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #14
I object to Hamas' evil. You should too.... shira Jul 2014 #19
Sources are not a deflection, you complain all the time about sources. MEMRI is your Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #20
All you have to do is list your source..that's all. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #18
Excuses ? Let's talk about excuses and antiSemitic attacks some people call "blowback " King_David Jul 2014 #16
No excuses, but you knew that...those CENTCOM reports really bug you..I get that. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #17
NBC Reporter Acts As Hamas Spokesman, Denies Terror Group Uses Civilians As Human Shields shira Jul 2014 #21
Hamas Propaganda Campaign Leading Foreign Media by the Nose shira Jul 2014 #23
According to the Hamas guidelines: shira Jul 2014 #24
Palestinians Killed by Israeli Military, Pawns for Hamas shira Jul 2014 #25
New York Times: All The News Hamas Sees Fit to Print shira Jul 2014 #26

Response to shira (Original post)

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
2. Unreal that so many western social media activists support Hamas
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jul 2014

Talk about being on the wrong side of history.

Again.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. The irony of an Israeli propagandist calling out Hamas propagandists...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 05:02 PM
Jul 2014

is striking.

There are a lot of dead Palestinians civilians due to Israel's military action. You can't sweep that fact under the rug. We have incidents verified where Israeli weapons were targeted on civilians. You can't sweep that under the rug either.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. The OP is about Hamas cognitive warfare. They're wildly successful....
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jul 2014

Hamas is trying to get as many Palestinians killed as possible, to smear Israel. That's simply a fact. Westerners should not be supporting Hamas' vile agenda.

I take it you disagree, and that's why you attempted to deflect.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. The Israeli propagandist has been calling 8 and 80 year old males "combat age".
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jul 2014

... in a disgusting attempt to justify genocide.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Israeli policy is many things, and it is not difficult to see why there is not much hope
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jul 2014

left for them to retain a viable state. But it is not genocide, the reports look to
be another indication of indiscriminate killings. I hope the killing stops before
long, for good.

On edit, I want to add this info: The Israeli government has adopted an official policy of harming the innocent


Published:
23 Jun 2014

The intention to demolish the family home of the two Palestinians charged with the killing of Baruch Mizrahi means adopting an official policy of harming the innocent, stated Israeli human rights NGO B'Tselem. The two suspects will be tried for the attack, and are expected to be sentenced to long periods of detention. Their family members, who are not suspected of any offence, are the ones who will suffer the loss of their home: 13 people are currently living in the house, including 8 children.

Years ago, the army concluded that punitive home demolitions are not an effective measure to deter attacks against Israelis, and there are even indications that they achieve the opposite effect. It seems therefore that the motives are reaping revenge and politically capitalizing on the current public mood in Israel, in light of the abduction. This draconian measure was not utilized for almost ten years, except for one case in 2009:

http://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20140623_renewal_of_punitive_house_demolitions

Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #6)

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. What do u make of Hamas propaganda from the OP?
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:18 PM
Jul 2014

Hamas wants Palestinians dead for PR purposes and unfortunately they have some western allies all too willing to support their war crimes and propaganda.

Do you oppose that?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
11. Deflection. The proper response....
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jul 2014

...is to condemn Hamas strongly for what they are doing to the Palestinians, rather than shooting the messenger. Hamas wants Palestinians killed so they can smear Israel. This is a fact.

No excuses, no cover for Hamas war crimes.

SHAME.

You wanna be pro-Palestinian, then act like it and oppose Hamas with everything you have.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
12. You wish it was brushed under the rug..your sources. Not going to happen.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jul 2014

Talk about excuses, your sources seem to be working over time.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. You should want Hamas exposed for who they are.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jul 2014

Significantly fewer Palestinians would be dead if the pro-Palestinian contingent strongly opposed what Hamas is doing.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
19. I object to Hamas' evil. You should too....
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:26 PM
Jul 2014

...rather than deflect from their crimes against humanity. What they're doing to Palestinians for PR purposes is beyond disgusting. On that we should agree.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. Sources are not a deflection, you complain all the time about sources. MEMRI is your
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:41 PM
Jul 2014

source, don't be afraid for people to learn of their history.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
16. Excuses ? Let's talk about excuses and antiSemitic attacks some people call "blowback "
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113468222

Excuses for a Rabi beaten to pulp for being a Jew = blowback for the occupation .

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. No excuses, but you knew that...those CENTCOM reports really bug you..I get that.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jul 2014

Try as you may to deflect the violence from the occupation is very sad...and such
zealot support is just as sad.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
21. NBC Reporter Acts As Hamas Spokesman, Denies Terror Group Uses Civilians As Human Shields
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 07:59 AM
Jul 2014
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/07/15/nbc-reporter-acts-hamas-spokesman-denies-terror-group-uses-civilians-h

Reporting from the Gaza Strip during MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports on July 14, NBC foreign correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin, formerly of Al Jazerra and CNN, parroted Hamas denials that it deliberately placed missile batteries in civilian buildings in Gaza

Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump

They definitely reject the labeling of using civilians as human shields....Hamas military wing people that we've been speaking to and others – not just on these past few days, but in the past several years, because this is an issue that always comes up against Hamas – they will say that this is the nature of the battlefield that they have to fight in. That this is not an issue by design, but as a reality of what Gaza is like because it's so densely populated.


Immediately following Mohyeldin touting the Palestinian terrorist organization's talking points, host Andrea Mitchell invited Mark Regev, the spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to response. Regev blasted the Hamas claims:

I think their denials, Andrea, are frankly ludicrous. The facts are clear. In fact, if you go to the Hamas interior ministry in Gaza you'll see they've actually called upon the citizens of Gaza to act as human shields. As my prime minister said yesterday, in Israel we've got missiles to defend our people and in Gaza they've got people to defend their missiles. That's what Hamas does.



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/07/15/nbc-reporter-acts-hamas-spokesman-denies-terror-group-uses-civilians-h#ixzz37umfGtz4
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
23. Hamas Propaganda Campaign Leading Foreign Media by the Nose
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:45 AM
Jul 2014

Hamas has orchestrated lies and half-truths to lead foreign media into the trap of believing that Israel is carrying out a massacre in the Shejaiya “refugee camp” in Gaza, while Israel’s hands are tied because of information that cannot be revealed due to military censorship.

The terrorist regime has claimed that clashes in a refugee camp are mass murder of children and other civilians, but once censorship is lifted, it will be shown that Hamas is hiding the whole truth.

In the meantime, it has gained a major advantage in its propaganda campaign.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/hamas-propaganda-campaign-leading-foreign-media-by-the-nose/2014/07/20/

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
24. According to the Hamas guidelines:
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:49 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:01 PM - Edit history (1)

“Anyone killed or martyred is to be called a civilian from Gaza or Palestine, before we talk about his status in jihad or his military rank. Don't forget to always add 'innocent civilian' or 'innocent citizen' in your description of those killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza.”

One of the directives said that Israel should always be showed as attacking, and “we in Palestine are fulfilling the role of the reaction.”

Another stated:[font color = "red"] “Avoid publishing pictures of rockets fired into Israel from Gaza city centers. This would provide a pretext for attacking residential areas in the Gaza Strip. Do not publish or share photos or video clips showing rocket launching sites or the movement of resistance forces in Gaza.”[/font]

Interestingly, there were guidelines on how to speak to Westerners on social media as opposed to Arabs.

"When speaking to the West, you must use political, rational, and persuasive discourse, and avoid emotional discourse aimed at begging for sympathy.”

Also, “Avoid entering into a political argument with a Westerner aimed at convincing him that the Holocaust is a lie and deceit; instead, equate it with Israel's crimes against Palestinian civilians.”

When speaking to an Arab emphasize “the number of martyrs,” but with “a Western friend, start with the number of wounded and dead.


http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Hamas-tells-social-media-activists-to-always-call-the-dead-innocent-civilians-364154
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
25. Palestinians Killed by Israeli Military, Pawns for Hamas
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jul 2014

Hamas continues to fire rockets into open spaces in Israel. Is this a provocation for war? Yes. But the death toll on the Israeli side is incredibly low. In fact, since this latest battle has begun, as I mentioned above, only one Israeli civilian has died. Is Hamas incapable of harming Israelis? No. Sources again tell me that Hamas is playing a political game and wants to see the death toll among Palestinians as high as possible for international sympathy, aid and support.These sources work on the ground to protect the Palestinians from abuses by the Israeli government and abuse by Hamas. They tell me that Hamas does not care for the Palestinian people and sees them as the means to an end. The deaths of innocent people is what Hamas is hoping for.

Therefore, I am told that when the “roof knockers” are fired over homes that at times civilians and families are kept inside, held at gunpoint. These civilians are literally prevented from leaving the building in hopes that they are killed by an airstrike. The higher the number of civilian casualties, the better for Hamas.

...As for the Palestinians, they also live under oppression and opportunism from Hamas. These people, fathers and mothers, sons and daughters are treated as pawns in this game. They are taught to hate their “oppressors” in Israel while being sacrificed by Hamas for sympathy and international funding.

Ultimately the question is not who wins in this latest battle in Gaza, the hard truth is that since 1994 one group has consistently lost in a rigged game. For those who believe that Israel has a right to self DEFENSE, in the midst of your anger toward those who would attack Israel, you should weep for those who are being killed as pawns in this game. For those who believe that Israel is in the wrong, you should be equally outraged at Hamas’ abuse of the Palestinian people who are being robbed of their lives, their children and watching their families torn apart simply to derive international sympathy.

http://benswann.com/truth-about-gaza-palestinians-killed-by-israeli-military-pawns-for-hamas/

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
26. New York Times: All The News Hamas Sees Fit to Print
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jul 2014

It would appear that Hamas’s media instructions have been heard loud and clear at the New York Times, and the response is obedience. But the Times also isn't bothering to inform its readers that the images they’re seeing of Gaza are only the ones Hamas wants them to see. It’s time for the Times to tell its readers exactly why they are being presented with such a distorted picture of this war.

It appears the Times is silently but happily complying with a Hamas demand that the only pictures from Gaza are of civilians and never of fighters. The most influential news organization in the world is thus manufacturing an utterly false portrait of the battle—precisely the portrait that Hamas finds most helpful: embattled, victimized Gaza civilians under attack by a cruel Israeli military.

A review of the Times's photography in Gaza reveals a stark contrast in how the two sides are portrayed. Nearly every picture from Israel depicts tanks, soldiers, or attack helicopters. And every picture of Gaza depicts either bloodied civilians, destroyed buildings, overflowing hospitals, or other images of civilian anguish. It is as one-sided and misleading a depiction of the Gaza battle as one can imagine.

Today's Times photo essay contains seven images: three of Gaza civilians in distress; one of a smoke plume rising over Gaza; and three of the IDF, including tanks and attack helicopters. The message is simple and clear: the IDF is attacking Gaza and harming Palestinian civilians. There are no images of Israelis under rocket attack, no images of grieving Israeli families and damaged Israeli buildings, no images of Hamas fighters or rocket attacks on Israel, no images of the RPG's and machine guns recovered from attempted Hamas tunnel infiltrations into Israel.

A second report yesterday, ostensibly about Hamas tunnel attacks on Israel, bizarrely contained not a single picture related to those attacks. The three pictures it contained presented the same one-sided narrative of Israelis as attackers, Palestinians as victims. One picture showed an IDF artillery gun firing into Gaza; a second showed Palestinian mourners at a funeral; a third showed Palestinians waiting in line for food rations.

INDEED, a check of the Twitter feed of the Times’s photographer in Gaza shows not a single image that portrays Hamas in a negative light. It's nothing but civilian victims of the IDF.

Likewise, the Twitter feed of Anne Barnard, the Beirut bureau chief for the Times currently "reporting" from Gaza, is almost entirely devoted to one thing: anecdotes, pictures, and stories about civilian casualties. Perusing her feed, one would think there are simply no terrorists in Gaza who started this war, who are perpetuating it, who are intentionally attacking Israel from neighborhoods and apartment buildings and thereby guaranteeing the very civilian casualties Barnard appears so heartbroken over.

http://simplyjews.blogspot.com/2014/07/new-york-times-all-news-hamas-sees-fit.html

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