Pro-Palestinian rally in Berlin features anti-Semitic chants

[King_David]

BERLIN (JTA) — Following a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Berlin on Thursday at which participants chanted anti-Jewish slogans, the American Jewish Committee Berlin office filed a complaint with police.
According to a press statement, marchers chanted, “Jew, Jew,cowardly pig, come on out and fight.”
Deidre Berger, director of the AJC’s Berlin office, wrote an open letter to the members of the German Bundestag calling on them to be vigilant in protecting Jewish citizens. Police should crack down on such threats “to show that anti-Semitism has no place in our society.”
The danger of uncontrolled demonstrations was made clear last week in Paris, when violent protesters trapped Jews inside a synagogue and chanted such slogans as “Hitler was right” and “Death to Jews.” In Germany, such expressions are illegal and not protected by free-speech laws.


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[King_David]

2. The new mantra is that this Jew Hatred is "blowback ". nt

[msongs]

3. palestinians are semites too. no one group has an ownership claim on that appelation nt

[King_David]

4. You keep calling Jews "Israelites " now you here with this new absurd argument

You have no credibility Mr .

[TexasProgresive]

5. Not so absurb

Semite |ˈsemīt|
noun
a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.
ORIGIN from modern Latin Semita, via late Latin from Greek Sēm ‘Shem,’ son of Noah in the Bible, from whom these people were traditionally supposed to be descended.

[King_David]

6. AntiSemite only applies to Jews

No matter what one reads in extremist right wing websites .

A better source is a dictionary .

[TexasProgresive]

7. You are wrong.

If you want to describe an act as anti-Jewish then call it anti-Jewish. The word Semite describes more than Jews. In fact if we could find the lost 10 tribes they would be Semites and they are not Jews (of Judah).

Speaking of the 10 lost tribes all of the rest of us may be descendants.

[King_David]

8. Ha

Don't have the energy to argue this bogus argument usually found in holacaust denial and extremist websites.

Suffice to say the definition of antisemite applies only to Jew hatred and thre isn't really a debate about it.

Period ....

The alternate "argument "is just absurd boring and extremist right wing garbage and in of itself antiSemitic .

[TexasProgresive]

11. Since you think the dictionary on my Mac is tainted by the Holocaust deniers how about this

from the 1991 Random House Webster's Dictionary-

Semite n 1. a member of a people speaking a Semitic language.
2. a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah.

Semitic n 1. a family of languages, a branch of the Afro-asiatic family comprising a number of ancient and modern languages of SW Asia and Africa, as Akkadian, Aramaic, Hebrew, Arabic, and Amharic.
2. of or pertaining to the Semitic languages or their speakers.

So it's like, "All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares and all rectangles are quadrangles but not all quadrangles are rectangles.

It is not anti-Jewish to say that Arabs are also Semites.

[King_David]

13. Antisemite means anti Jew

Period .

There ain't no argument about this.

Yes Arabs are Semites

Antisemite doesn't apply to Arabs unless it's an Arab Jew

End of argument

[TexasProgresive]

14. Another word ruined by misuse. n/t

[cali]

21. bzzzt. fail. The orignial use of "anti-semitic" was to describe bigotry against and hate for jews.

that's why the term was coined.

Your ignorance is beginning to look deliberate.

[TexasProgresive]

24. Blame my mother then

She inculcated in me to always look at the root meaning of words. Yes the word was coined by a German Judeophobe Wilhelm Marrs in the 19th century but his misuse of the word Semite has destroyed the meaning of Semite which does not exclusively refer to Jews.

[cali]

26. no, I think that's a silly excuse. Presumably your mother doesn't do your thinking for you

now. And she didn't teach you well, did she, as you were blathering about this BEFORE you even looked it up. Of course, semite doesn't refer exclusively to Jews. Yes, words are curious things. Is the word "drive" destroyed because a driveway is a place designated to park, not drive.

Your insistence about this- and umbrage- is creepy. ugh.

[TexasProgresive]

27. You must drive into a driveway so no.

Enough said. There is plenty of hatred to go around without any group claiming to be more hated. On that note, I will let this rest. There can be no meeting of minds on this issue. This is a general symptom of America- we are all too invested in our beliefs.

[Shaktimaan]

30. What are you talking about?

There is plenty of hatred to go around without any group claiming to be more hated.

And to you the word "anti-Semitic" somehow implies that Jews believe they are more hated than other groups? How does that work?

This is a general symptom of America- we are all too invested in our beliefs.

Well you've certainly illustrated that concept here.

[Shaktimaan]

16. You looked up the wrong word

We're not debating the definition of the word "Semite." The word under discussion is "anti-Semite." Which does not mean "against Semites" despite how it may seem.

Did you really think this word was invented to describe hatred of Semitic people though? Because that's ludicrous. When was the last time you heard of bigotry against "those lousy Semites?"

[TexasProgresive]

18. So I did some checking on the origins of the word, antisemite.

It appears to have been coined in the 19th century by a German writer, Wilhelm Marr in a pamphlet, "The Victory of Germandom over Jewry". It just seems ironic to me to claim this word as ones own when it was coined by the founder of the League of Antisemites, the first organization to use the term.

My guess is that Herr Marr did not know any other Semites but if there were Arabs important in the German economy he would've lumped them all together in his screed.

[cali]

22. bzzzt again. Jews didn't claim it as their "own". That is and always has been the meaning of the

word. YOU don't like that, so you're making shit up. And your guess about Marr is absurd. Ugh. It's silly to stick to this shit. It's hardly about Jews claiming "ownership.

[sabbat hunter]

10. check your dictionary

Anti-Semite will be defined as anti jew.

[sabbat hunter]

25. definition of

anti-semetic

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-semitism

Full Definition of ANTI-SEMITISM

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group

[sabbat hunter]

9. Wrong

The accepted definition of Anti-semite is anti jew.

[TexasProgresive]

12. So why are the only anti-Semites anti-Jew

but discrimination against other Semites such as Arabs is not anti-Semitism. There is a disconnect here.

[The Magistrate]

17. Exactly, Sir: It Was To Bring 'Jew-Hate' Into Respectable Parlors....

[cali]

20. Why is a driveway a place where you park, and a parkway a place where you drive?

No disconnect for anyone who understands a bit about language in general and the etymology of "anti-semitic" in particular. I suggest you do a bit of research.

[sabbat hunter]

23. because

that is the definition of the term.

The real disconnect is you not understanding a generally accepted definition of a word.

Check any dictionary under antisemitism. Look at the meaning listed.

[cali]

19. It's Israelis, not Israelites. You know who calls people Israelites? commonly used

by StormFront types and anti-semites. And anti-semitic is a phrase that was coined as a more "acceptable and "scientific" term for jew hatred. That's its etymology. That's what it means. It does not mean hatred against all semites. It is not used that way by any reputable historian, sociologist, reporter or anyone else. sorry.

[WatermelonRat]

28. You're playing semantics.

Same as a person who says "I'm not a homophobe because I'm not AFRAID of gays, I just hate them!"

"Anti-semitism" has referred exclusively to anti-Jew discrimination for over a hundred years. Everyone knows this definition, and it doesn't reflect well on you when you play games like this.

[shira]

29. No way Merkel should be permitting demonstrations...

...in which Jews are called animals or nazis on German soil.