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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:18 AM Jul 2014

The Times of Israel calls Kerry " a Traitor"


Astoundingly, the secretary’s intervention in the Hamas war empowers the Gaza terrorist government bent on destroying Israel

Read more: John Kerry: The betrayal | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/john-kerry-the-betrayal/#ixzz38lEVGuxD
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And they seem to miss HRC.....no wonder why, she's not only taken any risk in Middle East mess, but she is also far more unilateraly pro Israel , unlike Kerry, who has always been more enclined to understand both side's needs....

When Kerry’s predecessor, Hillary Clinton, got involved in the effort to broker terms for ending Operation Pillar of Defense in November 2012, it was self-evident, first, that a ceasefire was at hand, and, second, that the diplomatic work was being coordinated effectively with Jerusalem to ensure that Israel’s vital interests were being served. It is a testament to Kerry’s incompetence (or worse), and to the collapse of faith between him and Israel, that, when he headed ignominiously home on Saturday, neither of those assumptions held sway.

Whether through ineptitude, malice, or both, Kerry’s intervention was not a case of America’s top diplomat coming to our region to help ensure, through astute negotiation, the protection of a key ally. This was a betrayal.


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The Times of Israel calls Kerry " a Traitor" (Original Post) mylye2222 Jul 2014 OP
So trying to negotiate peace makes JK a traitor to a foreign nation? That's some logic. Scuba Jul 2014 #1
Yes, what a bunch of crap. mylye2222 Jul 2014 #2
Mr. Horovitz, rateyes Jul 2014 #3
They just can't put up with a US official not doing exactly what they tell him to do. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #4
On the surface at least. mylye2222 Jul 2014 #5
The surface is the problem. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #6
You know what, do it your way Israel, lets just have the US stop covering for your crimes Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #7
Israeli government accused him of a "strategic geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8
I read that Aerows Jul 2014 #10
No it didn't oberliner Jul 2014 #12
Just "very senior officials" geek tragedy Jul 2014 #13
No it doesn't oberliner Jul 2014 #9
From Haaretz geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11
Like I said Aerows Jul 2014 #14
If one goes by polls, Israelis are more geek tragedy Jul 2014 #15
Good grief. Aerows Jul 2014 #16
That's the thing--people think Israelis geek tragedy Jul 2014 #17
I don't know too many Israelis Aerows Jul 2014 #18
our neighbor is Israeli-American, just got his US citizenship, he's awesome,but geek tragedy Jul 2014 #19
Oh, come on Ober. You've been back for a week at the most and your posts already R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #20
 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
2. Yes, what a bunch of crap.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:37 AM
Jul 2014

Cant wait of US RW scumbags relaying it.....The Kerry bashing its exhausting.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
4. They just can't put up with a US official not doing exactly what they tell him to do.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:49 AM
Jul 2014

Even if he does 99% of what he's told, it is not enough. The US has been Israel's lapdog for so long, they cannot tolerate even the slightest disobedience.

Don't worry, AIPAC and the US corporate media will soon have Kerry back on the Israeli leash.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
5. On the surface at least.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:52 AM
Jul 2014

Its not so recent that kerry had taken distance with Israel policies. He did it since 2009.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
6. The surface is the problem.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jul 2014

The US needs to take a public stand condemning Israeli policies that warrant condemnation. Silence is tacit approval.

Actually calling Israel out for once would vastly increase US prestige and credibility in the world.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. You know what, do it your way Israel, lets just have the US stop covering for your crimes
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jul 2014

at the UNSC. Arrogant and stupid to call Kerry a traitor. Becomes more clear that
Israel's government does not want peace they want continued occupation..duh.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Israeli government accused him of a "strategic
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jul 2014

terrorist attack."

This is not a sane, rational state, just another backwards Mideast theocracy on the downward slope.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. Just "very senior officials"
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jul 2014

Meaning cabinet members--more than one.

This is the game our 'friends' in Israel play.

Though calling John Kerry a terrorist is admittedly a new low, even for those ingrates.

A nation of Dick Cheney's.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. From Haaretz
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jul 2014
But over the weekend, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry ruined everything. Very senior officials in Jerusalem described the proposal that Kerry put on the table as a “strategic terrorist attack.” His decision to go hand in hand with Qatar and Turkey, and formulate a framework amazingly similar to the Hamas framework, was catastrophic. It put wind in the sails of Hamas’ political leader Khaled Meshal, allowed the Hamas extremists to overcome the Hamas moderates, and gave renewed life to the weakened regional alliance of the Muslim Brotherhood.


Israel showing its idea of what friendship means. Still bitter that Mitt lost apparently.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. Like I said
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jul 2014

the most insane rhetoric I've heard in a while, and I live in Mississippi, so you know I've heard some right-wing bullshit before.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. If one goes by polls, Israelis are more
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jul 2014

explicitly racist than white people in Mississippi, so there's that.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. That's the thing--people think Israelis
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:04 PM
Jul 2014

are like the cast of Seinfeld or something. In reality closer to Duck Dynasty.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. I don't know too many Israelis
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jul 2014

but I know plenty of "Duck Dynasty" types, and they spout the same "hate, shooting, killing, destroying" things that we are hearing lately with regards to the I-P war from Israel's leaders.

Their government makes Mississippi proud of its tolerance from what I can see. I think even Alabama feels better about their government.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. our neighbor is Israeli-American, just got his US citizenship, he's awesome,but
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/israeli-poll-majority-apartheid-policies

More than two-thirds of Israeli Jews say that 2.5 million Palestinians living in the West Bank should be denied the right to vote if the area was annexed by Israel, in effect endorsing an apartheid state, according to an opinion poll reported in Haaretz.

Three out of four are in favour of segregated roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank, and 58% believe Israel already practises apartheid against Palestinians, the poll found.

A third want Arab citizens within Israel to be banned from voting in elections to the country's parliament. Almost six out of 10 say Jews should be given preference to Arabs in government jobs, 49% say Jewish citizens should be treated better than Arabs, 42% would not want to live in the same building as Arabs and the same number do not want their children going to school with Arabs.


...


According to the Haaretz report, the survey found that ultra-Orthodox Jews held the most extreme views about Arabs, with 70% supporting a legal ban on voting rights and 95% backing discrimination against Arabs in the workplace.



 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
20. Oh, come on Ober. You've been back for a week at the most and your posts already
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jul 2014

sound like you're not really interested in the discussion.

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