Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumWATCH: Whole Gaza neighborhood destroyed in an hour
http://972mag.com/watch-civilians-have-no-safe-place-to-go-in-gaza/94518/This video reflects the reality of civilian life in Gaza. Israel claims that Hamas is using schools, hospitals, beaches and mosques to shoot rockets, which makes each of these sites a legitimate target. However, this also means that civilians have nowhere to go for safety. I was told by some Israelis that people should just go out into the streets until the bombing is over. However, this video proves how naive this solution is. The residents of Gaza dont even have the privilege to flee danger as refugees.
As a friend of mine from Gaza told me when I called him two days ago: We are waiting here to see if we are meant to live or die. Every day is another day of fear and destruction. If you dont die, someone you know is likely to be among the dead. This is no life a human being can accept.
After watching this IDF pogrom against the Gazans I am saddened that the hasbaristas continue to look for sympathy as if they are the victims in all this. Some have even gone so far as to blame the Gazas for their own deaths, or if they voted for Hamas then they deserve death and Israel has the right to kill them. Utterly barbaric.
randys1
(16,286 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)But what it is surely is wrong and deadly and so on.
You do know what pogrom means, right?
Massacre, genocide, etc.
Do you think Israel wants that?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)How many children has Israel lovingly put to death?
You do know what pogrom means, right?
randys1
(16,286 posts)noun
an organized massacre of a particular ethnic group, in particular that of Jews in Russia or eastern Europe.
synonyms: massacre, slaughter, mass murder, annihilation, extermination, decimation, carnage, bloodbath, bloodletting, butchery, genocide, holocaust, purge, ethnic cleansing More
I can assure you many people on both sides of the political aisle would NOT call this a pogrom
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Does that make you fell uncomfortable that I defined Israel in such a manner?
Would baby-killers be a better direction?
That is at least a dead on match since Israel has a habit of killing Palestinian children.
randys1
(16,286 posts)dont believe that Israel is at this time attempting to commit genocide, because if they thought that I think they would react differently.
I am not defending Israel, AT ALL, but I think if we start off by using correct words and tones, we might get further in the conversation overall.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Palestinians, on a normal day in Israel and the colonized West Bank, then I'm not sure what level of violence will change their minds as to what is going on.
randys1
(16,286 posts)the truth about the killing and harm done by the Israeli govt and Hamas...
That would be a good start.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)regnaD kciN
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and that you have to practically be blind (maybe with willful blindness) to not see that.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is there anything else to think at this point?
With the power plant out, and thus no water, refrigeration or sewage, then cholera, typhus and their friends will take care of what the shells and bombs don't.
randys1
(16,286 posts)well turn out to be a massacre.
I wish to hell the people on both sides, not Israeli govt and not Hamas but the average people, had some say in this
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Where is the Israeli offer to take in wounded non-combatants for medical treatment?
At the very least.