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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 06:57 PM Jul 2014

WATCH: Whole Gaza neighborhood destroyed in an hour

http://972mag.com/watch-civilians-have-no-safe-place-to-go-in-gaza/94518/

A video posted Tuesday by Al Arabiya shows the destruction of the Gaza neighborhood of Beit Hanoun in one hour. According to the Israeli army, residents are given at least three minutes to evacuate their homes before they are bombed. (In some cases, Gazans are given a 24-hour notice to evacuate the entire neighborhood.) Watching this video, I couldn’t help but wonder whether those three minutes would be enough to escape this kind of attack. I don’t think so.

This video reflects the reality of civilian life in Gaza. Israel claims that Hamas is using schools, hospitals, beaches and mosques to shoot rockets, which makes each of these sites a legitimate target. However, this also means that civilians have nowhere to go for safety. I was told by some Israelis that people should just go out into the streets until the bombing is over. However, this video proves how naive this “solution” is. The residents of Gaza don’t even have the “privilege” to flee danger as refugees.

As a friend of mine from Gaza told me when I called him two days ago: “We are waiting here to see if we are meant to live or die. Every day is another day of fear and destruction. If you don’t die, someone you know is likely to be among the dead. This is no life a human being can accept.”


After watching this IDF pogrom against the Gazans I am saddened that the hasbaristas continue to look for sympathy as if they are the victims in all this. Some have even gone so far as to blame the Gazas for their own deaths, or if they voted for Hamas then they deserve death and Israel has the right to kill them. Utterly barbaric.
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WATCH: Whole Gaza neighborhood destroyed in an hour (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 OP
Holy shit...not good randys1 Jul 2014 #1
This is a pogrom, designed by Bibi Blitzkrieg, to shut Gaza down. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #2
People I know and trust say it isnt a pogrom... randys1 Jul 2014 #4
Massacre... R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #6
Of course I do, that is why I ask, pogrom means randys1 Jul 2014 #9
Well, I did. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #10
OK, if that is what you think then so be it, I suppose Obama and others randys1 Jul 2014 #11
I don't know what Obama and others believe, but if they don't see the extreme injustice against R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #14
I wish we had a media that told us the truth, for starters randys1 Jul 2014 #15
Agreed. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #16
Yes, I think Israel DOES want that… regnaD kciN Jul 2014 #7
"Do you think Israel wants that?" jberryhill Jul 2014 #8
That may well be true, and as time goes on and the carnage piles up it may randys1 Jul 2014 #12
It's the things I don't see jberryhill Jul 2014 #13
Israel plays the victim while murdering children. 4now Jul 2014 #3
Three minutes to evacuate? Please tell me that's not true arcane1 Jul 2014 #5
Inhumane treatment to say the least. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #17

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. People I know and trust say it isnt a pogrom...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jul 2014

But what it is surely is wrong and deadly and so on.

You do know what pogrom means, right?

Massacre, genocide, etc.

Do you think Israel wants that?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. Massacre...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jul 2014

How many children has Israel lovingly put to death?

You do know what pogrom means, right?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. Of course I do, that is why I ask, pogrom means
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jul 2014
noun
an organized massacre of a particular ethnic group, in particular that of Jews in Russia or eastern Europe.
synonyms: massacre, slaughter, mass murder, annihilation, extermination, decimation, carnage, bloodbath, bloodletting, butchery, genocide, holocaust, purge, ethnic cleansing More



I can assure you many people on both sides of the political aisle would NOT call this a pogrom

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
10. Well, I did.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jul 2014

Does that make you fell uncomfortable that I defined Israel in such a manner?

Would baby-killers be a better direction?

That is at least a dead on match since Israel has a habit of killing Palestinian children.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
11. OK, if that is what you think then so be it, I suppose Obama and others
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jul 2014

dont believe that Israel is at this time attempting to commit genocide, because if they thought that I think they would react differently.

I am not defending Israel, AT ALL, but I think if we start off by using correct words and tones, we might get further in the conversation overall.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
14. I don't know what Obama and others believe, but if they don't see the extreme injustice against
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:46 PM
Jul 2014

Palestinians, on a normal day in Israel and the colonized West Bank, then I'm not sure what level of violence will change their minds as to what is going on.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
15. I wish we had a media that told us the truth, for starters
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jul 2014

the truth about the killing and harm done by the Israeli govt and Hamas...

That would be a good start.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
7. Yes, I think Israel DOES want that…
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jul 2014

…and that you have to practically be blind (maybe with willful blindness) to not see that.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. "Do you think Israel wants that?"
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:40 AM
Jul 2014

Is there anything else to think at this point?

With the power plant out, and thus no water, refrigeration or sewage, then cholera, typhus and their friends will take care of what the shells and bombs don't.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
12. That may well be true, and as time goes on and the carnage piles up it may
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014

well turn out to be a massacre.

I wish to hell the people on both sides, not Israeli govt and not Hamas but the average people, had some say in this

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. It's the things I don't see
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jul 2014

Where is the Israeli offer to take in wounded non-combatants for medical treatment?

At the very least.

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