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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:09 PM Jul 2014

Gaza imam calls for Jews’ extermination

A Hamas-affiliated imam in Gaza said the group will “exterminate” Jews, and launched an anti-Semitic diatribe in a sermon broadcast on Hamas’s Al-Aqsa TV station

A video of the sermon, made available on Tuesday by the Middle East Media Research Institute, shows the cleric speaking last week at a mosque in Dir al-Balah in the central Gaza Strip.


“”Our doctrine in fighting you (the Jews) is that we will totally exterminate you,” he says. “We will not leave a single one of you alive, because you are alien usurpers of the land and eternal mercenaries.”

“Research the history, my brothers. Wherever the Jews lived, they spread corruption,” he cries out.

“Oh Muslims, didn’t you notice that Allah said: ‘They spread in THE land…’ The definite article in ‘THE land’ means the entire land. ‘They spread in the land corruption, and Allah loves not the corrupters.’”



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Gaza imam calls for Jews’ extermination (Original Post) King_David Jul 2014 OP
Massacres always bring out extreme calls for revenge. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #1
Someone's religion said to go ahead and EXTERMINATE!" misterhighwasted Jul 2014 #3
No. The versions you heard before weren't in the midst of that groups people being slaughtered. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #5
i've heard this before this fighting started samsingh Jul 2014 #13
Nope King_David Jul 2014 #4
In order that I not have another hidden post I am only going to PCIntern Jul 2014 #7
Yes it's become risky King_David Jul 2014 #8
Read my PM to you...nt PCIntern Jul 2014 #10
That is a chronic problem here. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #16
Oh, please say more... R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #19
Let us play a game... PCIntern Jul 2014 #27
I know an even better game. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #28
Aren't you jus SO CLEVER!! PCIntern Jul 2014 #29
No. Just honest. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #32
bingo rateyes Jul 2014 #37
Religion quantifies murder misterhighwasted Jul 2014 #2
Meanwhile Israel makes good on the slaughter of Gazans Scootaloo Jul 2014 #6
And Rabbi Dov Lior say the same about the Palestinians intaglio Jul 2014 #9
I would like to demonize all bigots including Lior King_David Jul 2014 #11
Funny how only the hate spouting Palestinian attracts your attention normally intaglio Jul 2014 #15
Good to know you study my posting history King_David Jul 2014 #18
Stop the hate, king. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #21
Results are in Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #35
Well, there you go. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #36
this is not acceptable samsingh Jul 2014 #14
Thanks, none of this unregenerate preaching is worth it intaglio Jul 2014 #17
There's an awful lot of it going around lately. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #12
And meanwhile, the real termination of Palestinian children still goes on. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #20
When extremism meets extremism what do you expect? Larkspur Jul 2014 #22
Europe with their history has nothing moral to teach the world, ever . King_David Jul 2014 #23
Oh, but what moral is Israel teaching the world now, king? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #30
the jews are indigenous also Mosby Jul 2014 #24
That's what people hate the most about Israel King_David Jul 2014 #25
Or it could be all the killing and appropriation and ethnic cleansing Scootaloo Jul 2014 #26
"That since 1948 Jews no longer go like lambs...." R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #31
Shame on him! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #33
That's completely different than this: Aerows Jul 2014 #34
Israel actually IS exterminating Palestinians. ProgressiveMuslim Aug 2014 #38
Good people in the US and around the world want this to end...the powers that be are so wrong. Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #39

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
1. Massacres always bring out extreme calls for revenge.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jul 2014

Does this surprise you, when Israel is destroying Gaza and killing hundreds and hundreds of innocents?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
5. No. The versions you heard before weren't in the midst of that groups people being slaughtered.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jul 2014

The occurred in peacetime purely based on cold blooded hate. This is different and I would expect such comments in an emotional situation.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
4. Nope
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jul 2014

Not surprised at all .

They hate us Jews in Israel,Jews in Argentina,Canada,USA,France, Ukraine.

Hamas has a lot of company in the world too in this respect,Left and right wing too.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. Yes it's become risky
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jul 2014

Someone called me an asshole and the post wasn't hidden but if you .... ( can't continue because I fear my post will be hidden )


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5305195

PCIntern

(25,454 posts)
27. Let us play a game...
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jul 2014

let's alert every post we possibly can until someone gets put in time-out or banned. What a fun game...or have you heard of this exercise yet?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
28. I know an even better game.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jul 2014

It's called the truth. More people should try it some time.

I'll go first. Israel has killed a lot of Palestinian civilians, and some posters right here in I/P blame the Palestinians for their own deaths.

Some would rather distract from that fact by posting as many stories as possible about anti-Semitism than deal with the fact that their beloved state of Israel has knowingly sanctioned the deaths of children.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
9. And Rabbi Dov Lior say the same about the Palestinians
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jul 2014
From Haaretz (pay wall in place)
Right-wing rabbi’s ruling: Israel may totally destroy Gaza if necessary
'Deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy’ are allowed in some cases, Rabbi Dov Lior writes.

/snip

“Therefore, in a time of war, the attacked nation is permitted to punish the enemy population with whatever measures it deems proper, like blocking supplies or electricity. It may bomb the entire area based on the judgment of the war minister and not wantonly put soldiers at risk…deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy [are also allowed],” Rabbi Dov Lior, the senior West Bank settler rabbi and the rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Kiryat Arba adjacent to Hebron, reportedly wrote.

“The defense minister may even order the destruction of Gaza so that the south should no longer suffer, and to prevent harm to members of our people who have long been suffering from the enemies surrounding us,” Lior continued.


Do you condemn this pronouncement as well or are you just trying to demonise Palestinians?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. I would like to demonize all bigots including Lior
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jul 2014

And this hateful antiSemitic bigot in the OP too.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
18. Good to know you study my posting history
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jul 2014

Shcaich .

This "hate spouting Palestinians" as you call it ,is directing his hate towards me ,so of course it attracts my attention. (I'm a Jew)

And for that very reason it attracts a lot of other peoples attention who are not even affected in any way whatsoever by this hate ( except that it's directed toward Jews)

And by the way when the very same bigots direct their hate toward Gays it attracts my attention too.


Now you don't have to "wonder why" anymore .....

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
35. Results are in
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 06:00 AM
Jul 2014

On Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:42 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Stop the hate, king.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=74507

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personal attack

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:56 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Explanation: It's a positive message. Taken literally. Given all the emotion around this, I'd suggest it be taken literally.
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Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not even a personal attack.
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Explanation: I don't think this post rises to the level of a hide.
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Explanation: King_David is a Zionist Apologist. A shill for Sharon. Israel can do no wrong it commits genocide and its fine with him.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
17. Thanks, none of this unregenerate preaching is worth it
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

The idea seems to be no longer "an eye for an eye" but rather your head and your children for an eye

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
20. And meanwhile, the real termination of Palestinian children still goes on.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jul 2014

Brought to you by Netanyahu and all the baby-killers in the IDF.

So to sum up. Some Imam calls for murder while Israelis are actually carrying out wholesale murder.
 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
22. When extremism meets extremism what do you expect?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jul 2014

My Irish ancestors hated their British overlords and my paternal aunt, a 2nd generation Irish-American, told me never to trust the British. Oppression breeds hatred and mistrust that takes root in following generations. Hatred born of oppression is aborted when justice and economic opportunities are fairly administered.

While I oppose what this imam is publicly saying, he's in the middle of a major crisis of his people. He's also part of a people who are the most destitute on the planet even when the rockets and bombs are not flying. When there is a ceasefire, Israel continues the oppressive siege and blockade against the Palestinian people in Gaza and continues stealing land in the West Bank. The siege and blockade are the acts at the origin of Hamas' rockets being launched ineffectively against Israeli towns and settlements.

Since Israel has the 5th most powerful military on the planet, this imam's outburst has no immediate consequence. But since the Arab and Palestinian birth rates are higher than the Jewish ones, the real threat to Israeli Jews is the non-Jewish population explosion that could or will make Jews a definite minority in their land by the next generation. I suspect that is at the heart of Israel's brutal assault, referred to by Israelis as "mowing the lawn," upon the Palestinians in Gaza.

All Israel is doing today with their brutal assault upon the Palestinians in Gaza is sowing the seeds of anti-Jewish hatred in the next generation of Palestinians. Hamas, it is said, was born out of the first Intifada. While Israel publicly talks about ridding Gaza of Hamas, those left behind are more likely to be more radical than Hamas, which was once supported by Israel to neuter Arafat's Palestinian Authority.

A proverb from the Old Testament said something like this, "when leaders have no vision, the people perish." The Israeli leaders today only have a vision of destroying and slaughtering Palestinians. They, not Hamas, are sowing the seeds of destruction for the state of Israel. The same could be said of Hamas, but the Palestinians are a stateless people thanks to Israelis reneging on previous truces and treaties. The people of Gaza are refugees from towns now occupied by Israeli Jews, who are cheering the Israeli bombings.

Israel today is proving Gandhi right, that Israel had no right to exist in the land of Palestine without the consent of the indigenous people and their neighbors. By forcing the state of Israel upon Palestine, America, Western Europe and the Zionists committed the last act of Western European colonialism in the 20th century and thus created the mess we see today with no hope for peace in the future.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
30. Oh, but what moral is Israel teaching the world now, king?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:06 PM
Jul 2014

That it is alright to kill Palestinian children and call it photogenic when it is displayed for the world to see?

Although you would like to believe otherwise there is no daylight between Israel and its European neighbors.

Mosby

(16,247 posts)
24. the jews are indigenous also
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jul 2014

Odd that Gandhi didn't know that.

He also said that the Jews should have willingly walked into the gas chambers.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Or it could be all the killing and appropriation and ethnic cleansing
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

Just because you can't bring yourself to care about the lives of Arabs, Dave, doesn't mean other people share that dysfunction.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
31. "That since 1948 Jews no longer go like lambs...."
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jul 2014

It must really stick in the Israeli craw that the Palestinians don't want to go like lambs either.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. That's completely different than this:
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.606688

There are idiots on both sides, and to highlight that one religious leader calling for slaughter is to be more reviled than another calling for slaughter is an excuse to justify slaughter.

ProgressiveMuslim

(6,502 posts)
38. Israel actually IS exterminating Palestinians.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:38 PM
Aug 2014

As always... let's focus on what Palestinians say, and not what israel DOES.

Given what people in Gaza are experiencing right now, I find it amazing that 1.8 million people aren't calling for Israel to be exterminated. Look at how the US reacted after one attack on 9/11.... we were willing to take down the world. Imagine that feeling 100-fold...

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
39. Good people in the US and around the world want this to end...the powers that be are so wrong.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:45 PM
Aug 2014

They won't make it stop.

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