Israel/Palestine
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August 6, 2014
by Mitchell Plitnick- is the former Director of the US Office of BTselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, and was previously the Director of Education and Policy for Jewish Voice for Peace. He is a widely published and respected policy analyst. Born in New York City, raised an Orthodox Jew and educated in Yeshiva, Mitchell grew up in an extremist environment that passionately supported the radical Israeli settler movement. Plitnick regularly speaks all over the country on current issues. * more bio at link.
With a 72-hour truce apparently holding in Gaza and Israel having ended its ground operation, now seems like a fair time to assess where things stand. Has anyone emerged from this war in a better position? Is there anything that can, at least in a cynical and Machiavellian sense, be called a victory?
Palestine
It goes without saying that the overwhelming majority of the physical destruction was borne by the people of Gaza. At this point, the numbers are just horrifyingly grim: 1,968 dead 1,626 of whom were civilians and 7,920 wounded. While we dont have a precise percentage, we do know that there are at least 2,111 children and 1,415 women among the wounded.
snip* Still, Israel has definitely come out of this appearing more villainous than Hamas. Thats going to make a difference going forward. Israel may no longer be able to bury the issue of the Gaza blockade, a form of collective punishment that has only helped solidify Hamas rule in Gaza and has deprived the people while failing to prevent the buildup of Hamas rockets. No one bought into the anti-Iran portion of Netanyahus rhetoric, another failure for Israel. Even in the US Jewish community, this onslaught shook a lot of pro-Israel faith and sent other Jews out of their living rooms and into the streets.
I see nothing but an illusion of victory here for the Israeli right. And for the rest of the country, the surge in extreme nationalism made Israel look a lot more like a fascist state than the Middle Easts only democracy.
http://www.lobelog.com/ceasefire-in-gaza-where-things-stand/
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Obama administration has occasionally had some good ideas about the Middle East, but has repeatedly shown it doesnt have a clue about how to implement them. It paints itself as an advocate for peace, but shows no willingness to back up its words in the face of Israeli resistance. Thats why its more important now than ever for Europe or some other outside party to push its way past the US in dealing with this issue.
Ouch.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Believing they'd do a better job of bringing peace to the region than the US.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Palestinians to a viable state.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is there a country or organization whose involvement would be more likely to lead the Palestinians to a viable state?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)within themselves in civil disobedience and the courts simultaneously.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Yes. Literally all of them.
it's less about hteir capability than our inability / unwillingness.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or maybe give a few examples?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)"I see nothing but an illusion of victory here for the Israeli right. And for the rest of the country, the surge in extreme nationalism made Israel look a lot more like a fascist state than the Middle Easts only democracy.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)more join him on that conversation.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Scootaloo
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English isn't derived from Sanskrit. English and Sanskrit share a common origin in the Indo-European language family... but... so does Yiddish, from which we get "Mensch." Yiddish is just Jewish colliquial German with some Hebrew (Afro-asiatic) and Slavic (more into-european) loans.
"Mensch" isn't such a loan word, it's straight German. Anf English does have a parralel, though it comes to us from latin rather than German - Luminary.