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A majority of British voters believe Israel acted in a disproportionate manner during the recent Gaza conflict, according to the latest Guardian/ICM poll, which lends support to the arguments that persuaded Lady Warsi to resign from the government.
Amid hopes that the month-long conflict between Israel and Hamas could be ending as a ceasefire continued to hold, the poll also found greater opposition to Israel than to the Palestinians.
The poll found that 52% of voters believe Israel acted disproportionately when it responded to the firing of rockets by Hamas by launching air strikes against the Gaza Strip. It found that 19% thought Israel had acted proportionately while 29% of those polled did not know.
The findings will lend weight to the argument of Lady Warsi, who resigned last week as a senior Foreign Office minister after criticising David Cameron for his "morally indefensible" failure to describe the Israeli action as disproportionate.
More than 1,900 Palestinians, most of whom were civilians, have died in the conflict in which 64 Israeli soldiers have also been killed. Three civilians have been killed in Israel two Israelis and a Thai agricultural worker.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/12/uk-voters-israel-disproportionate-gaza-poll
Fozzledick
(3,859 posts)Rising anti-Semitism in the wake of Israel's war in Gaza is causing most British Jews to question their future, according to a new poll by the Jewish Chronicle.
The JC reported conducting a straw poll in which it asked 150 people the following: "Since the protests against the war in Gaza began, have you or your friends had a discussion whether there is a future for Jews in the U.K.? Just over 63 percent answered affirmatively.
Anti-Semitic acts surged in July, as the Community Security Trust, a British anti-Semitism watchdog, recorded 240 incidents alone, which the JC reported as being the second worst month since British records began. Community Security Trust reported 304 incidents for the six months of 2014, up 36 percent over the parallel period last year but far below the 629 incidents recorded January-June 2009 in the wake of Operation Cast Lead.
Several individuals in England and Scotland expressed their worries to the JC, ranging from regret about moving back to Britain from Israel and thoughts about leaving for countries with less tension to a general feeling of being unsafe.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.610498
4now
(1,596 posts)Israel murders 450 Palestinian children then worries that maybe some people might be anti-antisemitic.
Fozzledick
(3,859 posts)but I can see you have your agenda.
4now
(1,596 posts)First you call the British people anti-semitic and now you claim I have an agenda.
Do you really have to resort to name calling.
Blaming the victim.
Blaming the victim describes the attempt to escape responsibility by placing the blame for the crime at the hands of the victim. Classically this is the rapist claiming his victim was "asking for it" by, for example, wearing a short skirt. Until recently, blaming the victim was largely how most rape victims experienced the investigation and litigation into claims of rape - often leading to women and men becoming unwilling to report it. It was not uncommon for a victim of rape to face a defense attorney who asked the victim about her (or, in the rare cases that a male victim went to court, his) sexual history, sexual preferences, drinking habits and even social status, all to paint her as less of a victim. In 2013, a Montana Judge said a 14 year old rape victim was equally responsible for her own rape because she "seemed older than her chronological age". A perfect example of blaming the victim.
Denying the victim is similar, but has a slight difference in that the perpetrator attempts to assert that he or she is the real victim. Denying the victim is generally less of a one-on-one scenario, and more topical, ie. "The real victims of the supposed 'mistreatment of women' are the children who have to grow up in homes where their mother wants to work instead of care for them." Denying the victims, in this sense, is often an attempt at historical revisionism, to make those charged with the crimes, look more or even totally innocent in the light of modern society.
Denial of the victim can also take the form of minimizing the number of victims or the severity of the offense. For example, the Roman Catholic Church played this game, when trying to claim the systematic child abuse by some priests were simply isolated events both individually and by priests at large. They also pushed the issue that the boys should not be described as "children," but "young men" to minimize the sense of how horrific these rapes were. Both blaming the victim and denying the victim are specific instances of neutralization.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Blaming_the_victim
Fozzledick
(3,859 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)It sounds like the same excuses that murderers in prison would make."She made me do it."
Fozzledick
(3,859 posts)Fozzledick
(3,859 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)That's what started this.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Bibi Baby-killer started this war. Deal with it, and stop spreading falsehoods.