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hack89

(39,171 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 10:44 AM Aug 2014

BDS Victory Over SodaStream Equals 900 Palestinians Out of Work

Now, it seems the supporters finally have their wish: SodaStream has announced, in a reported non-political move, that they are moving the factory from the West Bank to a land that indisputably belongs to Israel (unless you're a member of Hamas or ISIS), near the town of Lahavim in the Negev.

This means that the Israeli company will no longer be "occupying" in the West Bank. Good job, BDS supporters.

Oh, it also means that 900 Palestinians - the people you claim you're trying to protect here - are now out of a job.
The company will make the move sometime in 2015. While it will still practice its equal opportunity hiring practices, it seems more likely that the region's Bedouin and African communities will be reaping the benefits of employment as opposed to the Palestinians.


http://www.shalomlife.com/business/25438/bds-victory-over-sodastream-equals-900-palestinians-out-of-work/
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BDS Victory Over SodaStream Equals 900 Palestinians Out of Work (Original Post) hack89 Aug 2014 OP
Do you feel the Palestinians do not understand the sacrifice of boycotts? Or is it that they are not Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #1
I just think that complete separation will be the result hack89 Aug 2014 #2
Really? I hope you are correct. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #3
The question then becomes what kind of economy will the Palestinian state have hack89 Aug 2014 #4
Many BDS supporters are not Palestinians oberliner Aug 2014 #10
What does that have to do with my question? The OP seems to be suggesting if this Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #11
How does that have anything to do with BDS? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #5
The EU boycott is directed only against Israeli goods made in the West Bank hack89 Aug 2014 #6
Ok, that makes more sense Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #7
actually it's a crock of well....... the only settlement products outright banned in the EU are azurnoir Aug 2014 #8
I like the disclaimer at the end Scootaloo Aug 2014 #9
From Ha'aretz: SodaStream to decide whether to shut down controversial West Bank plant oberliner Aug 2014 #12
Yup. As in, it hasn't been decided yet Scootaloo Aug 2014 #13
I guess that BDS is working then R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2014 #14
Life has improved dramatically for Palestinians thanks to BDS oberliner Aug 2014 #15
Novartis to invest in Israel's Gamida Cell, could buy out company King_David Aug 2014 #17
Certainly not working for the Palestinians that are now jobless hack89 Aug 2014 #16

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. Do you feel the Palestinians do not understand the sacrifice of boycotts? Or is it that they are not
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 10:51 AM
Aug 2014

in support of the action? It is sad that no matter what the Palestinians do, non violent or otherwise,
the response from the leadership in Israel has been a consistent, fuck you.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. I just think that complete separation will be the result
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 10:55 AM
Aug 2014

Israel will, and should, withdraw from the west bank. They already have an ample supply of foreign workers that have replaced the Palestinians that use to work in Israel. Israel will move on and leave the Palestinians to their own devices.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. The question then becomes what kind of economy will the Palestinian state have
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

the perfect situation would be peace such that Palestinians could work in Israel and there would be unhindered flow of commerce. It is hard to see that happening until groups like Hamas and Islam Jihad and their beliefs are eradicated from Palestinian society. The risk to Israel would be too great.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Many BDS supporters are not Palestinians
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:46 PM
Aug 2014

They are Europeans, Americans, etc. who sacrifice nothing by making noise about Soda Stream.

The Palestinians who were employed by the company were not necessarily BDS-ers themselves.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. What does that have to do with my question? The OP seems to be suggesting if this
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:49 PM
Aug 2014

took place it would not be supported by Palestinians. There is no indication they
are against it.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. How does that have anything to do with BDS?
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 11:25 AM
Aug 2014

It's still an Israeli company, so it will continue to be boycotted as long as the overall oppression continues. Moving the company does squat to change their being one of the boycotted companies.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. The EU boycott is directed only against Israeli goods made in the West Bank
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 11:30 AM
Aug 2014

It was how the BDS demands were filtered through political reality. SodaStream can sell in the EU when they move their factory out of the West Bank.

Making their product 100% Palestinian free works to their economic advantage.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
7. Ok, that makes more sense
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 11:36 AM
Aug 2014

The BDS folks I read stuff from didn't get that specific in what they were doing.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
8. actually it's a crock of well....... the only settlement products outright banned in the EU are
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 12:38 PM
Aug 2014

farm products-meat, cheese, wines, veggies and fruits other products made in the settlements must be labeled as such can and not be labeled as made in Israel as they are in the US-for example SodsStreams sold in the US are labeled as being made in Barkan Israel-Barkan is a settlement in the West Bank not Israel, in the EU labels can not say that

In a letter recently sent out by the Ministry of Agriculture to Israeli dairy and livestock producers, Israeli farmers were told to start separating out their products that come from beyond the Green Line ahead of the European Union's boycott of dairy, poultry, eggs and meat that come from the West Bank and Golan Heights. The separated products will then not be sent to the European Union. Howver this is hardly the first time hyperbole has been applie to the EU labeling

The EU's ban is designated for products from the West Bank and Golan Heights, but would technically include certain parts of Jerusalem, though no Israeli goods are produced there anymore.

In accordance with instructions from the Foreign and Finance ministries, the letter goes on to state that farmers must present the ministry with a list of farms over the Green Line from which they receive raw materials that are combined with materials from multiple farms. This is being done in order to separate end products, such as powdered milk, that could include materials from both farms over the Green Line and farms within the EU's definition of Israel.

Currently, products sold in the European Union that come from over the Green Line carry a label, but are not banned outright.


http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Letter-to-farmers-Start-separating-your-West-Bank-and-Golan-Heights-products-371202
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. I like the disclaimer at the end
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 05:46 PM
Aug 2014
DISCLAIMER** We would like to thank everyone for reading and commenting on the article, and make a clarification: the company has yet to make an official statement regarding this situation (they have only announced the new factory), but, as IsraellyCool points out, its considered "common knowledge" that this may indeed happen. As stated above, the decision to move factories is non-political, and whether or not the Palestinian employees will be able to continue working with SodaStream remains to be seen. In this article, we are simply looking at what we believe will take place as a result of the BDS movement. Thank you.


In other words, this op-ed is essentially speculative bullshit, but a right-wing Zionist blog assures us, "it could totally happen!"



But all the dumbfucks posting comments there are worth a giggle
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. From Ha'aretz: SodaStream to decide whether to shut down controversial West Bank plant
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:56 PM
Aug 2014

SodaStream will decide within two months whether to close the West Bank plant that prompted a high-profile boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign against the Israel-based beverage machine maker, CEO Daniel Birnbaum said Wednesday.

http://www.haaretz.com/business/.premium-1.612799

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
13. Yup. As in, it hasn't been decided yet
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:08 PM
Aug 2014

The op-ed is written as if it had already happened. And the source its posted on directs us to "isreallycool" to point out "it could totally happen like this!"



No doubt you were going to get on this inconsistency, had i not pre-empted you, yes?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
14. I guess that BDS is working then
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:11 PM
Aug 2014

I have to go and dig up the OPs about this and find where the hasbaristas have deleted their never never will happen nonsense...that is if they haven't deleted them already.

BDS

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. Life has improved dramatically for Palestinians thanks to BDS
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:53 PM
Aug 2014

I don't know how anyone could come to any other conclusion.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. Certainly not working for the Palestinians that are now jobless
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:14 PM
Aug 2014

The company will move to Israel and continue to sell to Europe and America.

Is this the kind of "victory" BDS was aiming for - rich Israelis and poor Palestinians?

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