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Israeli

(4,139 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 02:40 AM Oct 2014

The facts about buying land in Jerusalem's latest settlement

Summary

Despite condemnation from the United States and other countries, Israel is forging ahead with its plan to disrupt the Palestinian urban continuum in the Jerusalem area, while preventing the sale of real estate to non-Jews.

Author Akiva Eldar Posted October 6, 2014

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/10/israeli-arabs-apartments-east-west-jerusalem-national-lands.html#ixzz3FREtYykR
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The facts about buying land in Jerusalem's latest settlement (Original Post) Israeli Oct 2014 OP
Excerpt ..... Israeli Oct 2014 #1
Netanyahu is a rateyes Oct 2014 #2
All Wrong. Carlos Rodrigez Oct 2014 #3
Did you actually read that last link .... Israeli Oct 2014 #4
I don’t see the relevance Carlos Rodrigez Oct 2014 #5
Apologies .... Israeli Oct 2014 #6
I don't see Carlos Rodrigez Oct 2014 #7

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
1. Excerpt .....
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 02:48 AM
Oct 2014

In the face of these realities, Netanyahu presents his own “facts” and chastises the US administration for not doing its homework. He says that Givat Hamatos, like the Silwan neighborhood abutting the Old City walls, is an inseparable part of unified Jerusalem and Israel’s sovereign territory.

The fact is that Israel is the only country that recognizes the annexation to Jerusalem of 70 square kilometers (27 square miles) of West Bank land captured in June of 1967 and the legality of the Jewish neighborhoods built across the Green Line. Netanyahu also claims, “Arabs in Jerusalem freely buy apartments, and nobody says that is forbidden.” In a meeting with journalists in his New York hotel, the prime minister added, “There must not be discrimination — not of Jews and not of Arabs.”

In an interview with Fusion’s Jorge Ramos, Netanyahu said, “If, in a certain neighborhood in the United States or in Mexico or anywhere else, you would tell a Jew that he couldn’t buy an apartment, there would be an uproar.”

It seems hard to believe that the prime minister of Israel lies knowingly, so it must be that Netanyahu hasn’t studied all the facts. Scandalously, a Jew living in the United States or in Mexico, who has never visited Israel, is entitled to buy a house in the Old City of Jerusalem or in the Jewish Quarter in Hebron. On the other hand, a Palestinian native of Jerusalem is not entitled to buy an apartment in the Har Homah neighborhood and cannot get a title deed to an apartment in Givat Hamatos.

In complete contradiction to the prime minister’s claim, not only is land in west Jerusalem out of bounds for Arab residents of East Jerusalem (only several hundred Palestinians have been granted Israeli citizenship), the 280,000 Palestinians there have no access to “national lands” even in areas that were under Jordanian control until 1967 and expropriated to build Israeli neighborhoods on some 35% of the area of East Jerusalem. The State of Israel sells real estate solely to Jews (93% of the land in Israel is “national land”). Article 19 of the Israel Land Administration’s land lease contract, which came into force on Sept. 1, 2013, clearly states that a foreign national cannot lease (not to mention gain title) national lands unless he obtains permission by virtue of his entitlement to immigrate to Israel under the Law of Return.

And after all is said and done, and even as the world continues to wag its finger at Israel, it’s business as usual for the settlers as they make their way with heads held high from Har Homah to Givat Hamatos, from Sheikh Jarrah to Silwan.


The prime minister's office did not respond to Al-Monitor's query concerning the alleged contradiction between the prime minister's claim that Jews and Arabs are equality entitled to purchase apartments in Jerusalem and the Israel Land Administration's lease contract.


Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/10/israeli-arabs-apartments-east-west-jerusalem-national-lands.html#ixzz3FRG9fDoO

 

Carlos Rodrigez

(69 posts)
3. All Wrong.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 06:30 AM
Oct 2014

The article claims: “In complete contradiction to the prime minister’s claim, not only is land in west Jerusalem out of bounds for Arab residents of East Jerusalem (only several hundred Palestinians have been granted Israeli citizenship), the 280,000 Palestinians there have no access to “national lands.”

Wrong. The prime minister was right. The East Jerusalemites can still get everthing that every other Israeli can. They merely have to apply for citizenship.

“Jerusalem Palestinians are permitted to apply for Israeli citizenship, provided they meet the requirements for naturalization—such as swearing allegiance to Israel and renouncing all other citizenships—which most of them refuse to do. At the end of 2005, 93% of the Arab population of East Jerusalem had permanent residency and 5% had Israeli citizenship.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem#Residency

They can still apply. “Many of my friends and acquaintances who hold Jerusalem identification cards and documents of permanent residency rather than Israeli citizenship are quietly applying for and obtaining Israeli passports.” http://www.ipcri.org/index.php/ipcri-media/news/44-quietly-east-jerusalem-palestinians-are-acquiring-israeli-citizenship

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
4. Did you actually read that last link ....
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:33 AM
Oct 2014

....all the way through ???

" Further, why does Israel actively grant citizenship to Palestinian residents of Jerusalem? Is it hoping that they will become a negotiating card for the Israeli government in its attempt to keep East Jerusalem? Is this another Israeli action to undermine the viability of a two-state solution? Are they assuming that since most East Jerusalemites do not vote in municipal elections that they will similarly refrain from exercising their right to vote in national elections? Does Israel believe that the current oath of allegiance declaring loyalty to the state guarantees that Palestinian East Jerusalemites will show greater compliance and less dissidence towards Israel? "

" Though we continue to believe the dream of a unified Palestinian identity, the reality is that this identity has become fragmented among the different statuses that each one of us holds. Gaza residents are trapped in a fortified prison. They view the West Bank as freedom, but in reality it is just another prison. For a West Bank resident, Jerusalemites appear to have many privileges, and Jerusalemites with an Israeli passport seem to have reached the ultimate level of freedom. But it's all relative. Those new Palestinian citizens of Israel will soon realize that their pledge of allegiance could seal their lips from criticizing the unfulfilling oath that they have just taken, namely that a state cannot reconcile the value of democracy it claims, with its exclusivist Jewishness.

Will the day ever come when we are not divided according to a barometer of suffering and restrictions on freedom? When peaceful and dignified life is enjoyed equally by Palestinians from refugee camps, Gazans, West Bank residents, East Jerusalem residents and Palestinian citizens of Israel, and they can feel equally secure that their basic individual rights and freedoms are not threatened daily and systematically? For that we require democracies that advance beyond the free and fair elections to recognizing individual freedoms, and the right to be different. "


source your link @
http://www.ipcri.org/index.php/ipcri-media/news/44-quietly-east-jerusalem-palestinians-are-acquiring-israeli-citizenship

 

Carlos Rodrigez

(69 posts)
5. I don’t see the relevance
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:11 AM
Oct 2014

of what you just quoted.

I think Israel has no choice but to give East Jerusalemites citizenship. To do otherwise, would be undemocratic. And offering East Jerusalemites citizenship entirely defeats all the claims in this article of unequal treatment.

In sum, Israel is a democracy that treats Arabs equally. (The only unequal treatment is in exempting Arabs from military service, but since they can still volunteer, no one critiques Israel on this.)

Israeli

(4,139 posts)
6. Apologies ....
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:02 AM
Oct 2014

...should have bolded this part :

Is this another Israeli action to undermine the viability of a two-state solution?

Now read this Carlos Rodrigez :

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/

The two-state solution is dead .

We dont treat Arabs equally.....thus the reference/relevance
to :

For that we require democracies that advance beyond the free and fair elections to recognizing individual freedoms, and the right to be different

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