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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:08 AM Oct 2014

Israel starts building 600 settlement units



Israel has started building around 600 settlement units in occupied East Jerusalem, while construction works continued in various other settlements in the city and the occupied West Bank.

Israeli weekly newspaper Kol Ha'er said that the Israeli company A. Aharon had successfully completed the marketing and sale of a new project in the settlement of Pisgat Zeev entitled 'Nativ Hamzolot', north of Jerusalem. The project includes four buildings each including six housing areas and a total of 24 settlement units.

The units are expected to be inhabited within 20 months. The same company marketed the 'Novi Hapesga' project in the same settlement that includes 22 units.

The company has also begun the project 'Tovi Adumim' in the settlement of Maaleh Adumim that includes 14 settlement units in two buildings. It will also begin a new settlement project in Gilo called 'Medorgi Gilo' with 88 settlement units in four buildings. In the Neve Yacov settlement, the company is building 165 settlement units.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/14607-israel-starts-building-600-settlement-units
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Israel starts building 600 settlement units (Original Post) Jefferson23 Oct 2014 OP
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This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #2
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These are neighborhoods in E Jerusalem that would end up part of Israel in any peace agreement oberliner Oct 2014 #4
EJ is occupied territory, without it as their capital they won't be able to have a viable Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #5
It can serve as capitals for both states oberliner Oct 2014 #6
Any agreements should first meet a recognition legally that EJ is the Palestinians, what they Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #7
That will never happen oberliner Oct 2014 #8
That's why they need to take their case to the international courts. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #9
That would definitely be one way to go oberliner Oct 2014 #10
If there is no viable state, there will be no peace..that would be pure fantasy, imho. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #11
Right now there is no viable state and no peace oberliner Oct 2014 #12
History indicates a viable state will need to be imposed, Israeli leaders are fine with the status Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #13
Which history indicates that? oberliner Oct 2014 #14
Israel has no history of willingly working to end the occupation leaving the Palestinians a viable Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #15
When has a viable state been imposed in the manner you are suggesting? oberliner Oct 2014 #16
Perhaps you can tell me why there would need to be a precedent for it? n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #17
I was referencing your comment oberliner Oct 2014 #18
I expalined in my previous post that history speaks to Israel's past behavior...thus the need Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #19
The leadership Krishna Vijaya Oct 2014 #20

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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. These are neighborhoods in E Jerusalem that would end up part of Israel in any peace agreement
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 06:24 AM
Oct 2014

Jews were expelled from these areas during the Jordanian occupation of the city.

They are already home to tens of thousands of Jewish Israelis. Quite dissimilar from the settlements deep in the West Bank that would almost certainly need to be completely dismantled and incorporated into a newly formed Palestinian state.

It is unfortunate that no one even talks about an actual peace agreement any more these days.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. EJ is occupied territory, without it as their capital they won't be able to have a viable
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 07:54 AM
Oct 2014

state. Yea, that would be some piece agreement to leave the Palestinians less.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. It can serve as capitals for both states
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 04:29 PM
Oct 2014

The Palestinians would maintain the Palestinian areas. The Israelis and Palestinians can do a land swap for the rest.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Any agreements should first meet a recognition legally that EJ is the Palestinians, what they
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 05:01 PM
Oct 2014

do after that with Israel is up to them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. That would definitely be one way to go
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 05:12 PM
Oct 2014

It might not be as effective as agreeing to an imperfect compromise, but who knows.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Right now there is no viable state and no peace
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:35 AM
Oct 2014

A bold solution is the only way to end the status quo. That can come from the Israelis, the Palestinians, or both.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
13. History indicates a viable state will need to be imposed, Israeli leaders are fine with the status
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:41 AM
Oct 2014

quo. Israel has the political and economic power, Palestinians will need their leaders
to step up and use all the legal leverage they can.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
15. Israel has no history of willingly working to end the occupation leaving the Palestinians a viable
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:54 AM
Oct 2014

state..that history.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. When has a viable state been imposed in the manner you are suggesting?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:53 AM
Oct 2014

Is there any recent historical precedent for that?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. I was referencing your comment
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 02:39 PM
Oct 2014

You wrote: "History indicates a viable state will need to be imposed"

I took that to mean that there was a historical precedent you had in mind.

If not, I'm not sure what you meant by that.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
19. I expalined in my previous post that history speaks to Israel's past behavior...thus the need
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 03:12 PM
Oct 2014

for the end of the occupation be imposed. Their leadership has no intentions of doing anything
but stalling.

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