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Related: About this forumPalestinians: Stop the Children's Intifada!
Hamas, Fatah and other Palestinian groups are using children from east Jerusalem and the West Bank in what appears to be a new intifada against Israel. Nearly half of the Palestinians arrested by Jerusalem Police over the past few months are minors. Some of them are as young as nine. These children are being sent to throw stones and firebombs, and launch fireworks at policemen and IDF soldiers, as well as at Israeli civilians and vehicles, including buses and the light rail in Jerusalem.
The exploitation of children in the fight against Israel has attracted little attention from the international community and media. Human rights groups and United Nations institutions have chosen to turn a blind eye to these human rights abuses. Instead of condemning those who exploit the children and dispatch them to confront policemen and soldiers, these groups and institutions are busy denouncing Israel for targeting minors.
more...
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4824/palestinians-children-intifada
shira
(30,109 posts)...There are also reports that Fatah and Hamas activists in Jerusalem have been paying children small sums of money to throw stones and firebombs at Israelis and block roads in several Arab neighborhoods.
Hamas and Fatah had long discovered that children are one of the most effective tools in the fight against Israel -- especially because of the damage Israel sustains in the court of international public opinion.
Thus far, it appears that the Palestinian groups have been successful in their effort to depict Israel as a country that deliberately targets Palestinian minors whose only crime is that they "resisted occupation."
Dressing children in military uniforms and allowing them to carry rifles and pistols during rallies in the West Bank and Gaza Strip is one way of encouraging them to put their lives at risk. But of course Hamas, Fatah and other Palestinian factions do not see anything wrong with this practice.
The adult activists who send and encourage children to take part in violence should be held accountable, not only by Israeli authorities, but also by their own people and international human rights organizations. If these adults want an intifada, they should be the first to go out and confront Israeli policemen and soldiers.
The time has come for the international community and media to pay attention to their disturbing conduct and demand that Palestinian groups stop hiding behind children.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)"Israel is arresting nine year-olds. it must be a nefarious plan by Hamas to make Israel look bad! Why isn't the world opposing Palestine over what Israel is doing?!"
With complimentary video on job creation from John Bolton in the sidebar, just to remind you the sort of opinions Gatestone revolves around.
shira
(30,109 posts)So FTR, you don't have a problem with Hamas and Fatah sending children out to attack civilians and soldiers?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'm not sure if you know or not, but having one's Palestinian-hate editorials published in outlets that specialize in hatred against the Palestinians doesn't make you a journalist. At best it makes you an editorialist, but more likely, it just makes you an asshole that someone gave a microphone to.
And for the record, the claim is bullshit. Made by an artist of bullshit, published by a mass purveyor of bullshit.
Mosby
(16,158 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That claim is supported by nothing except Toameh's attempt to frame it so.
shira
(30,109 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)That he was somehow given a Nobel Peace Prize makes a mockery of that award.
Mosby
(16,158 posts)And the media plays along:
Disgusting.
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)seems someone is very anxious to justify something but what, for some reason the number 500 comes to mind
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)The status quo is what the Gatestone Institute is all about.
Preemptive attack on the reports that will be released in due time.
Thanks for the right winged updates, shira.
shira
(30,109 posts)Dozens more videos like this...
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)the very Righting source and the date
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Gatestone Institute: The Gatestone Institute is a New York-based advocacy organization that is tied to neoconservative and other right-wing networks in the United States and Europe.[1] Chaired by John Bolton, a former Bush administration diplomat and a conservative foreign policy hardliner, Gatestone is a clearinghouse for right-wing commentaries on national security, the Middle East, and Islam, as well as a convener of high-dollar events on security and energy issues. It is an offshoot of the neoconservative Hudson Institute.
The institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States. Describing Gatestone's origins, journalist Max Blumenthal writes: "Through her affiliation with the Washington-based Hudson Institute, where Norman Podhoretz is an adjunct fellow, Rosenwald established a branch of the think tank in New York City. Operating under the Hudson banner, Rosenwald brought [the controversial anti-Islam Dutch politician Geert Wilders] to town in 2008 to warn against the Muslim plot to 'rule the world by the sword.' Wilders's tirade during that visit against the prophet Muhammad, whom he described as 'a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile,' was strident even by the standards of the hawkish Hudson Institute. By 2011 Rosenwald separated Hudson New York City from Hudson's national branch, changing her organization's name to the Gatestone Institute."[2]
Among its activities, the institute holds what it calls "Briefing Council events," which have included talks by Walid Phares, Charles Krauthammer, Andrew McCarthy, Elliott Abrams, William Kristol, and a host of other well-known right wingers and Gatestone principals.[3] Among its past events have been a presentation by Zuhdi Jasser on the "battle for the soul of Islam"; a talk by former CIA director James Woolsey titled "War on America"; a presentation in which Geert Wilders called Islam a "violent ideology that wants to impose Islamic Sharia law on the whole world";[4] and a 2014 event featuring Woolsey, former General David Petraeus, right-wing videographer James O'Keefe, and a host of conservative activists extolling the virtues of "fracking" for natural gas and oil.[5] A notice on Gatestone's website, which has since been removed, described the events as "invitation only, exclusively for our members," with a "minimum donation of $10,000 required for participation."[6]
Gatestone's other activities include red-carpet events for personalities like Wilders and policy briefings by sympathetic speakers. The institute has also announced plans to publish books. But the bulk of the organization's day-to-day output consists of blog posts and articles by Gatestone fellows and likeminded writers offering neoconservative commentary on current events and alarmist dispatches about the spread of Islam. Frequent topics include Israeli security, purported Palestinian malfeasance, Iran's nuclear enrichment program, and the supposed threat of Sharia law in Europe and North America.
gatestone-institute
Commentaries
Many of Gatestone's commentaries offer standard neoconservative tropes urging a more forceful and aggressive U.S. foreign policy. An April 2014 offering from Elliott Abrams, for example, complained that the Obama administration's foreign policy "really is the foreign policy of Belgium: negotiations, negotiations, negotiations. What is missing in this formulation? In one word: power." Referring to President Barack Obama and his past affiliations with figures commonly vilified by his Republican critics, Abrams added, "This is the man who learned foreign policy from Rashid Khalidi and William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. The habits [to be broken], as the Administration might see them, are 'militarism,' 'aggression,' 'Cold War thinking' and an alleged effort to dominate the world, 'Imperialism'or what many others might call patriotism."[7] Other Gatestone posts have urged a second military intervention in Libya[8] and inveighed against a diplomatic agreement over Iran's nuclear program.[9]
Gatestone contributors often espouse views associated with the European far right.
- See more at: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/gatestone_institute#sthash.ygzn8fWh.dpuf
shira
(30,109 posts)...encouraging and praising child martyrs.
Very sick shit there.
I know, I know. I don't expect you to condemn any of that. I expect you to deny or ignore it. Deflect, because it's obvious you have no problem with it at all.
And that's reason #543 why the anti-Israel, pro-BDS movement is complete and utter garbage.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Do you have the entire list?
The point of your video is suppose to be the reason why Israel should
not be expected to cede any land, none. I understand that about
you.
Violence begets violence, see Menachem Begin, he was an
expert at reigning violence himself.
shira
(30,109 posts)....goes back to at least Arafat's days. Your favorite organizations and cherished sources couldn't give a shit, so therefore you don't give a shit either.
Am I wrong?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)can and have been found to have compromised themselves, at times, on various
reports. On the whole, they do excellent work and deserve appreciation and
financial support from all of us. You have made clear there exists no human
rights group report on Israeli policy you support, period..none.
Spare me your outrage, shira.
shira
(30,109 posts).....to become martyrs or put their lives on the line facing off against the IDF.
There must be at least a dozen videos here on this thread attesting to that fact.
Human Rights groups know about it but refuse to report on it. The UN (UNRWA) is part of the problem, encouraging this crap in their schools. It's a game. And it's sick.
You should be outraged. These are Palestinian kids being victimized. Children who are callously being used as child-militants - which is either a crime against humanity or a war crime. Perhaps both.
I don't know how it's possible for someone pro-P not to be outraged after seeing the ton of evidence just here in this thread alone.
shira
(30,109 posts)This girl's parents are the very well known Tamimis (Bassem and Nariman).
Note at the very beginning how the girl waits for the camera to come closer before she goes off on her tirade, trying to goad the Israeli officer to do something in response - for the cameras - for PR purposes against those evil Jews...
Just a big show for the news cameras. Reporters are more than happy to oblige.
At around 2:30, a little boy is shoved into the soldiers.
Gee, why would kids do that unless they were encouraged to do that for the cameras - hoping a soldier would react or overreact?
shira
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http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/At-least-160-children-died-digging-tunnels-for-Hamas-369138shira
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(30,109 posts)Two cartoons in Abbas official Palestinian Authority daily encourage Palestinians to throw stones at Israelis. One cartoon showed a father and son before an Israeli Police barrier at the entrance to the Dome of the Rock. The father hands his son a slingshot and the text instructs:
Image is HERE.
shira
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(30,109 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)How many times have you hawked these videos?
Please stop.
shira
(30,109 posts)....to hate and want to kill Jews.
The PA/Hamas and UNWRA are not victims when they are responsible for this evil to children.
The hate is all theirs.
The victims are the kids who are encouraged to fight and lay their lives on the line.
Other victims are the Jews who are the targets of evil adults sending these kids out for twisted PR stunts.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)on Palestinian children.
Your posts on this, just today alone, are documented, shira.
Just please stop.
shira
(30,109 posts)You believe that when I expose the PA/Hamas and UNRWA for what they do to Palestinian children, that shows I'm taking my "hate" out on Palestinian children?
It's FAR more hateful to Palestinian children to deflect/ignore what authority figures (PA/Hamas) are doing to to them, with the help of their anti-Israel friends (UNRWA).
But you refuse to see it that way.
Why?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)than be shot at by the IDF.
That's sick. Really sick. If I were you I would have been embarrassed to have written what you have below.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=93142
10. Bullets are cheap. Apparently the IDF believes Palestinian lives are cheaper.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=93166
17. Encouraging kids to throw rocks at soldiers is arguably worse, don't u think? n/t
shira
(30,109 posts)I said it's arguably worse for Evil authority figures encouraging and praising children to put their lives on the line confronting the IDF and attacking civilians.
That's sick.
You 2nd excerpt even quotes me saying that - not what you're accusing me of saying.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)And no, shira, nothing is worse than shooting a child.
Well there is one thing that is worse, and that is the mouthpieces that lend justification to shooting children, shira, then blaming it on somebody else.
shira
(30,109 posts)...for the evil they're doing to Palestinian children.
You know, the children you say you care about? Those children are victims of those authority figures.
That's NOT broadbrushing Palestinians. If you think it is, then explain why.
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I'm also not justifying shooting children either. That's another BS accusation that you can't justify. I've stated repeatedly that there's a problem with the IDF's new policy. It deserves to be scrutinized and questioned. I think that's legitimate.
How on earth do you take that to mean I justify shooting children?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)As I recall, and I recall rather well, that when the Nakba day murders occurred that you were of the wrong-headed opinion that they were fakes.
Or if it is not that then you are using bigoted terms such as "Pallywood."
You really should stop.
shira
(30,109 posts)You're just fishing now.
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I want to know how a pro-P advocate like yourself appears indifferent to all the evidence showing Palestinian kids are being encouraged and manipulated into becoming child-militants putting their lives on the line attempting to attack soldiers.
You haven't shown you care about that at all. You have yet to acknowledge it.
Why?
How is it possible for a pro-P advocate - who says he cares about Palestinian children - to not even acknowledge the Evil that authority figures are perpetrating against Palestinian children?
Those children are victims of their sick authority figures.
Show me you care about those Palestinian child victims.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)And as for your posted fantasies, well it's just newspeak, shira.
It would be welcome by the Ferguson LEOs.
But here's some evidence by B'Teslem that you can call lies.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/blogs/politics/16508--israeli-soldiers-are-provoking-palestinians-to-shoot-them-with-live-ammo
The Israeli army is using live ammunition against unarmed Palestinian stone-throwers in the Occupied West Bank, deliberately provoking confrontations in order to open fire on protesters.
This is the conclusion of Israeli human rights NGO B'Tselem, in a new press release detailing "a dramatic rise in Israeli security forces' use of live 0.22 inch calibre bullets" in recent months.
According to the NGO, "the firing of this ammunition" by Israeli occupation forces at Palestinian civilians "is an almost weekly occurrence" at "protests and clashes." Most of the injured have been "young Palestinians, including minors", as well as "one Palestinian woman, at least three photographers, and a foreign national" in the last two months.
Disturbingly, B'Tselem says it has documented "several cases" when Israeli soldiers "intentionally engaged with stone-throwers in order to fire 0.22 bullets at them."
shira
(30,109 posts)You can't deny what's in those videos.
Do you support the content of those videos, proving that Palestinian kids are being encouraged to be child militants by their authority figures?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)I guess those Palestinian children don't rate as victims when Hamas, the PA, and the UN are responsible for essentially making them into child-militants.
Classy.
shira
(30,109 posts)You deflected again into a different situation altogether.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)An cogent person would have understood the parallels between what you have posted and my response.
Perhaps the children that are being shot by the IDF are being provoked by the IDF, and the right wing gatestone institute is just making noise to the opposite in order to blow smoke up our ass?
Perhaps if you posted less to right wing think tanks you just might, maybe, possible, conceivably be taken seriously.
No, now that's not going to happen, now is it?
shira
(30,109 posts)Since you're cogent, then explain those parallels.
Perhaps? Do you have evidence all or most children shot by the IDF are being provoked by the IDF?
And what does Gatestone have to do with anything? I can literally supply you with at least 30 videos proving the point of the OP. It seems, however, that no amount of evidence or proof can ever be enough for you. So you choose to deflect by attacking the messenger and ignoring all the evidence.
How lame.
Another deflection. Once again, I supplied a lot of video evidence, and I'm perfectly capable of showing you at least TWICE as many videos as I've already posted here - proving w/o question kids are being used as child-militants.
That's a war crime. It's sickening. And you refuse to acknowledge it.
Why don't those Palestinian child-militant victims rate?
What kind of pro-P advocate is not bothered by that?
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shira
(30,109 posts)....what do you do with that information?
Deflect?
Ignore?
Whitewash it?
What these authority figures are doing to them is pure Evil.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I asked you a question which I do not believe that you had the ability to answer.
Would you react the same way that you apparently do to if Palestinians were shooting Israelis and their children?
shira
(30,109 posts)Let's imagine Jewish kids are being encouraged to put their lives on the line attacking Palestinian police or troops.
They'd be killed.
Authority figures (settler adults?) responsible for putting those kids out there would be responsible. I'd be mad as hell and demand they be locked up for a long time.
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That's not the same as Palestinians just shooting Israelis and their kids for no reason, is it?
But that's the way you want to portray the IDF. Just shooting at Palestinians and their children because they can....
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Please don't act with fake outrage that the IDF has never shot a Palestinian adult or child unprovoked.
There's enough evidence on that, shira, and still shooting children seems to be alright with you.
Would you react the same way that you apparently do to if Palestinians were shooting Israelis and their children?
When illegal Israeli Settlers burn or chop down Palestinian olive groves?
When illegal Israeli Settlers throw rocks at Palestinians?
Really, shira. You are living in a universe that is not contaminated with reality.
shira
(30,109 posts)I have a big problem with IDF soldiers shooting at Palestinian adults or children unprovoked. I know there's evidence of that. There are also a helluva lot more false accusations of that as well. Fake news. Staged events. Proven to be so....
The other stuff you wrote is just throwing crap up at a wall to see if it sticks.
Changing goalposts due to the fact you can't support your arguments and are incapable of answering the simplest questions asked of you.
I'm not playing your game.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)You wrote that in post #44.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=93420
I didn't make that up. You wrote it.
Now you just wrote this above.
Well, shira, which one is it. Is it the way that the IDF is portrayed by news outlets (I just post to them here), that they are shooting Palestinians unprovoked, or is it a kind of conspiracy lie made up to befuddle you?
I don't need goalposts, shira, I just let the article tell it like it is, and watch as you and others deny that truth.
I know. My game is called the truth.
shira
(30,109 posts)I'm pointing to some situations that are not representative of what the IDF is all about.
I also pointed to the fact that there are a LOT more false, fake accusations of IDF misconduct than there are real incidents of it.
So no, the IDF doesn't attack civilians because they can. They have some bad officers like all other militaries, but that doesn't make the entire IDF evil.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)You wrote that in post #44.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=93420
I didn't make that up. You wrote it.
Now you just wrote this above.
I never called the entire IDF evil, shira. They're just following orders, right?
And why are you making excuses and moving goalposts?
You don't see me defending the actions of Hamas, now do you?
shira
(30,109 posts)Not soldier or soldiers, but IDF. Here are more examples from you...
I recall what you wrote about the IDF in Gaza this summer. You have a problem with the entire IDF. Just as you have a problem with ALL settlers you call illegal colonial thieving squatters.
You broad-brush a lot, whether you want to admit to it or not.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I'm sure that not all Israelis practice it, but it is a product of Israel: like it or not.
Speaking of broad-brush attacks...yours: "Palestinians: Stop the Children's Intifada!"
shira
(30,109 posts)Apartheid that no other western nation or Human Rights NGO like HRW or Amnesty acknowledge.
But you know better than them.
As to the OP's Palestinians, that's explained in the very first sentence:
You fail again.
You give up yet?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)And Israeli apartheid exists. I find it comically strange that you think narrowing the field of who considers Israel an apartheid state is a home run.
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/groups/leicester/apartheid-wall-palestine
Wherever you go in the West Bank, people will tell you stories of how the Israeli separation barrier has affected their lives. The Palestinians call it the apartheid wall and, looming from a height that is double the Berlin Wall in some places, it is a clear symbol of segregation and oppression. I spent a week in the West Bank and as each day passed, I could feel the cold shadow of the wall growing stronger as I came to understand its real effects in restricting human rights and fostering apartheid.
Still not complete in some places, the wall will eventually be a staggering 760km long. It has cut deep into Palestine, annexing land well past the 1967 green line border agreement. Palestinian families are expelled and settlers move in and build Jewish communities, protected by the army.
The wall itself is not just a wall. The first layer of defence is a thick fence of razor wire. Then comes a six foot electric barrier with motion sensors. Beyond this lies the wall, thick slabs of concrete punctuated by watchtowers and littered with CCTV. In Qalqilya a farmer showed us how it dominated the bottom of his land, with the first barbed fence just metres away from his onions and potatoes. He was one of the lucky ones.
The once thriving city of Qalqilya has become a ghost town as its population is forced out when their land and livelihoods are taken. Today 13 settlements have been built on Qalqilya land, and Israel has annexed the areas which hold precious water resources.
Perhaps you should take Amnesty off of your list and not just move your goal posts but bury them deep.
Oh, shira. I'm just getting warmed up.
shira
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The article you cited is just that, an article - written by an individual who doesn't claim to speak on behalf of Amnesty International.
In no way does her article reflect official Amnesty International policy when it comes to Israel.
If you don't believe me, that's fine. Simply find an official document from Amnesty showing that they consider Israel to be an apartheid state. They do big glossy reports on Israel all the time. But nothing on Apartheid. Where is this big report that they would gladly hand over to the media, after doing a big press conference to announce it?
Where has the MSM reported that Amnesty officially views Israel as an apartheid state?
Explain to me why Amnesty has never ACTED against Israel's alleged apartheid. IOW, apartheid is a serious allegation. Amnesty has not gone to the ICJ, ICC or any high authority to challenge Israel's apartheid. That's what they're supposed to do.
Try again.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)if they don't share the views if the writer.
shira
(30,109 posts)She claims it's an apartheid wall, but doesn't explain why.
It's useless crap.
shira
(30,109 posts)GAZA CITY Judging by the orderly rows of hundreds of young wannabes lined up in crisp military fashion at their graduation ceremony here Thursday, the armed wing of the Islamist movement Hamas will have plenty of eager recruits this year.
More than 17,000 fresh-faced teenagers and young men, ages 15 to 21, mustered at a dozen camps over the past week in the Gaza Strip to climb ropes, practice close-order drills and fire Kalashnikov rifles, all of them pledging to defend the coastal enclave and ready to fight the next war against their Zionist enemies.
They also learned how to perform first aid and throw a grenade. They watched but did not touch as instructors showed them the basics of improvised explosive devices.
shira
(30,109 posts)Recruiting child soldiers is generally considered a gross violation of human rights. Yet far from condemning this behavior, the international community is actively encouraging it.
After all, you dont hear much about Hamass recruitment efforts from the UN, the EU, the media or major human-rights organizations. But if those child soldiers are someday killed fighting Israel, all of these bodies will vie over who can condemn Israel for killing children most vociferously. And its precisely that reaction that makes recruiting child soldiers a win-win for Hamas: By so doing, not only can it significantly expand its fighting forces, but it can also ensure that Israel suffers international vilification whenever a war breaks outall without suffering any negative consequences to itself....
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentary_%28magazine%29
shira
(30,109 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Okay.
shira
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Starting at 2:00
shira
(30,109 posts)Op-ed in official PA daily: "Stop legitimizing the sacrifice of our children" for the sake of garnering support
Op-ed by Muwaffaq Matar, regular columnist for the official PA daily
We justify the deaths of our child victims with a thousand slogans and tales, but ultimately, they get nothing from us but a number and name on a tombstone.
The time has come to stop legitimizing the sacrifice of our children to collect tears and cries [of support] from the streets of the capital cities.
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=844
shira
(30,109 posts)Jerusalem and "every inch" of land will be freed "by the blood of the youth" - girl recites poem on PA TV
shira
(30,109 posts)Program: "In a Fighters Home
Visit to the home of Martyr (Shahid) Fadaa Kandil and his brother, prisoner Yousuf Kandil
Father says: If every home would sacrifice two of its children, we would defeat the enemy. Let every house with 7 [children] sacrifice 2, as I have done.
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=846&page=2
LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)Though I'm not a fan of Toameh, links to his articles at the Jerusalem Post would be just as acceptable as many of the other links we get here!
But the Gatestone Institute is different. As I've said before:
'This is an organization that has Soeren Kern as one of its chief editors, and whose recent events have included speakers such as Mark Steyn (more than once), Senator Tom Coburn, Dick Morris, Antonin Scalia, Douglas Murray, John Bolton (more than once), Geert Wilders, Alan Craig (a London Councillor for a small Christian-Right party), Henry Kissinger, the late Andrew Breitbart; Dan Pipes, and other evil individuals. Some of the events and publications are specifically Islamophobic; some are simply far right and anti-Democrat.
If they quote a news item, I suppose the news item is just as valid, but why give any credence to right-wing monsters? Linking to the Israeli or Palestinian Right might at least give information about certain perspectives on the ground, but linking to the American and Europaean Right, whether it's the Gatestone Institute or antiwar.com, is just giving a platform for the right-wing which we are all here on DU to oppose.'
P.S. Hamas are evil far-right-wingers themselves! But the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
shira
(30,109 posts)How terribly twisted.
Humane Leftwing organizations should be in the forefront reporting on this evil, but they're not. That's not just fucked up; it goes well beyond fucked up and into accommodating this evil.
It's sad the Left is generally leaving these stories for more conservative or rightwing outlets to report on. What a horrible dereliction of duty.
We should be discussing why the Left has generally allowed the Right to do this.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)They brainwash children into risking their lives and freedom, and then they condemn the Israelis, claiming they are "targeting minors."
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