The world’s fastest growing faith is not Islam!

[shira]

This article, for the most part, nails it. A tour de force.

Here in Europe, there is much talk about the decline of Christianity. Each year, more and more Catholics, Lutherans and Anglicans leave the faith, more and more churches close their doors or become mosques. In the Kreuzberg district of Berlin, it is said that references to Christmas in public events and decorations are now verboten – one can only say “Happy Winterfest”. In the Middle East, jihadists are expelling the world’s oldest Christian communities or just slaughtering them outright. Only 30 years ago, Christians were about 20% of the population of the Levant; now they are down to 3% and sinking fast – except for the Christians lucky enough to live in Israel.

We read statistics about the skyrocketing Muslim birthrate in the EU countries and the tens of thousands of Europeans who convert to Islam each year. Yet, in spite of all this, there is another faith – a recent religion – that has far surpassed the surging wave of Islam.

I call it Palestinianism. This is not to be confused with Islam, neither Shi’a nor Sunni. To join the fast-swelling herd of Palestinianites, one does not need to learn the Quran or avoid pork and alcohol or wear a veil or grow a beard or even believe in Allah. You do not even have to care about the Arabs self-identified as Palestinians. There is only one thing required of you. You must hate the Jewish State of Israel with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might.

Converts to Palestinianism usually start out as caring, sensitive, liberal and even altruistic individuals. They want to save the environment, defy the capitalistic Establishment, and stand up for the weak and downtrodden. Then, one day, whether on a street corner or a campus, they get a flier or hear a speech or see a demonstration against Israel. They are told that the few million Jews in Israel (about the geographic size of New Jersey) are the source of all wars and evil in the world. No, this is not a metaphoric phrase; the Palestinianites are literally convinced that tiny Israel is the evil giant Goliath and the Islamic world of 1.6 billion followers and over 600 times the land mass is the tiny defenseless David. Soon, the newly converted Palestinianites start attending rallies, speeches and demonstrations where no voice of dissension is permitted. They hear the tale of a peaceful, idyllic land called Palestine, where the wonderful ancient native culture thrived for thousands of years, until the evil Jews invaded in 1948 and stole this Garden of Eden from the indigenous, defenseless Palestinians. They never stop to ask why there are absolutely no historical or archeological traces of any of this homeland, or why the ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Romans, the Gospels and even the Quran only talk about the Jews and Israel and Judea, but never mention any nation called “Palestine” or “Palestinians”.

more...
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-worlds-fastest-growing-faith-is-not-islam-2/#ixzz3IEq1Womw

[shira]

1. OP cont'd...

...Note: In the year 135CE the mad Emperor Hadrian, in an attempt to expunge the memory of the rebellious Jews, came up with the artificial Latin name “Palestina” based on the Hebrew word for “philistine” to replace the name “Judea”. It would be devastating for Palestinianites to learn that “philistine” is a Jewish word that literally means “invaders”. They were originally Greek marauders who had invaded the Judean coast until the Assyrians - those masters of true genocide - completely wiped them out centuries before the birth of Christianity and Islam. Hadrian’s “Syria-Palestina” was never a sovereign state, just a minor military outpost until the fall of the Roman Empire.

Speaking of genocide, the novice Palestinianites are told that Israel is wreaking a merciless genocide on the innocent Palestinians for over 65 years. They never stop to wonder why the few hundred thousand Arab refugees from 1948 could be currently several million strong if they are victims of genocide. They are taught that the Gaza Strip, completely Judenrein (the Nazi term for “cleansed of any Jewish presence”) since 2005, is still somehow occupied by nefarious invisible Jews. They are instructed to say that the plight of the poor Palestinians in Gaza is exactly like a concentration camp where the Jews themselves were starved and systematically slaughtered. They never wonder why UN studies show that the Arabs in Gaza are among the most obese populations on the planet, or ask if there were swank coffee shops, malls, markets, horse-riding camps, luxury cars and 5-star hotels in Auschwitz, just like the ones in Gaza City.

What is the successful appeal of Palestinianism? Why are politicians, journalists, media darlings and entire universities converting to its cause? One reason is that it automatically conveys the message that you are a liberal, highly sensitive person – so sensitive that you will support terrorist regimes and an atavistic society that stones women to death for being raped, that hangs homosexuals, that exploits its own populace as human shields to protect its weapons, that brainwashes its own children to hate and kill and to kill themselves. All you have to do is sling a kefiyyah around your neck, and you are suddenly a daring young rebel. Take part in a demonstration and shriek “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!” (which means exactly the same as the flip side of that song, “Hamas! Hamas! Jews to the gas!”) and you are immediately a liberal and an intellectual.

Another reason is that it immediately makes you popular. Palestinianism is so widespread that wannabe media stars – journalists, bloggers, photographers – jump on the bandwagon as a calculated career choice. Performers with fading reputations will send out anti-Israel twitters or book a concert in Tel Aviv only to cancel it at the last minute in an epiphany of righteous fury, just to get a publicity boost. Lonely students feeling isolated and vulnerable on a big campus will convert to Palestinianism to feel as if they belong to something. Some Jewish students become Palestinianites to gain social acceptance and approval from their peers and professors, and sometimes to avoid the threat of verbal or physical assault at school. Many Israeli politicians, worn down by all the hatred, and craving for a pat on the head from the outside world, have converted to this new faith, hoping that they will be seen as “the Good Jews” and that they might get invited to all the best international non-kosher parties. Other politicos, either smelling the potential for grabbing the growing Muslim vote or fearing street violence at home, have been converting all over the Western world.

The third reason for converting to Palestinianism is money. That’s right, demonizing Israel and preaching Palestinianism has become a booming business. So-called “experts” on TV promote their latest book about the phantom “Jewish lobby” or the “Palestinian genocide”; professors get high-paying tenure for ranting revisionist history and conspiracy theories as long as they preach the Gospel According to Saint Edward Said and delegitimize the Jewish State. Academic Jewish lesbian Palestinianites now tour the world, supporting the anti-gay Hamas and Fatah while demonizing Israel for being too pro-gay – why? Because a highly promoted lecture tour can be very lucrative. Throw in a book-signing to go along with the lecture, plus the occasional talking head stint on television, and you’ve got a good deal going on. The biggest hogs at the money trough are the NGOs and political mouthpieces; they have made a literally bloody fortune attacking Israel nonstop, often with accusations that are later proven to be fabricated, while whitewashing or ignoring any heinous crimes of Hamas or Fatah. So far, the religion of Palestinianism, supported by the choir of anti-Israel NGOs, has guilted and strong-armed the US, EU and UN into donating 26 times the amount of the Marshall Plan that rebuilt all of postwar Europe. However, unlike the Marshall Plan, there is almost nothing to show for the investment – and still the money flow is unchecked and increasing. What other religion could do that, eh?

Palestinianism, when practiced in its most traditional form, can remove from its followers all capacity for critical analysis or doubt, all sense of guilt or proportion, all need to care for any other truly oppressed people on Earth. There is no need to protest or boycott to support Cyprus, its northern half under illegal Turkish military occupation since 1974; Tibet, invaded and culturally/religiously “cleansed” by China for over 50 years; kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls turned into sex objects; Western journalists and aid workers kidnaped and beheaded; Christians, Yazidis, Kurds and independent-thinking Muslims being hunted to extinction in Syria and Iraq; homosexual women and men being tortured, imprisoned and butchered in Iran, Egypt, Russia, and all over the Arab/Muslim world. Certainly, Palestinianism has no time for defending any Jews under attack anywhere in the world. Palestinianites will never even protest the oppression and slaughter of Palestinians, if the violence cannot be blamed on Jews.

Palestinianism is a great comfort, since its faithful know that they are always correct in their views, and always hold the high moral ground in any discussion. Once they have been in this religion enough time, they can take their children on Palestinianite holidays: interrupting concerts and film festivals if there is any Israeli participation, trashing supermarkets accused of selling Israeli products, or waving signs equating the Star of David with the Nazi swastika while blocking stores to keep customers from buying things “from those evil people”. For fresh air and exercise, they will unquestioningly shuffle along with the crowd in supposed peace marches that just happen to display the flags of Hamas, Fatah, Hezbullah and now even ISIS.

With all these wonderful gifts of Palestinianism, it’s no wonder that it’s attracted almost as many people as McDonald’s. However, any successful religion must demand something in return from its faithful, and Palestinianism is no exception. Its tenets dictate that you can no longer perceive any gradations of gray when the subject is Israel; in the entirely black and white world of the faithful, Israel is always evil and guilty while the innocent Palestinians are always the victims, and no middle ground is ever permitted. When internal Arab/Muslim polls show that over 80% of Palestinians wildly support Hamas and sharia law, you must ignore the facts and insist that the violent fundamentalists are only a tiny fringe. In Palestinianism, no other human rights cause can be allowed to compete. If you are a feminist or gay rights activist, you are obliged to put that goal aside in order to support the one worthwhile cause of cheerleading for the misogynous, homophobic regimes of Fatah, Hamas and Hezbullah. In Ferguson in the USA, the protests against the killing of an African-American teen were hijacked by professional anti-Israel agitators and their Palestinianite minions faster than you can say “intifada”.

Speaking of phobias and racism, this new religion demands that you drown out and gag any rational discourse on Israel or Palestinianism by screaming “Islamophobe!” and “Racist!” This also requires total acceptance of incoherent dogma, since Palestinians and Muslims are not a race, and Palestinianism is not a part of Islam or its Five Pillars. In spite of all this, I am sure that this article will attract its fair share of these parroted Pavlovian accusations.

If you think I am just trying to be facetious by calling this knee-jerk hatred of Israel a religion, think again. Even the rabidly anti-Israel Norman Finkelstein declares that “the BDS movement is a cult.” The former Israeli professor Ilan Pappe, whose fervent embrace of Palestinianism guarantees him a place of honor in UK academia, declared in an interview with the Belgian paper Le Soir:

“I am not as interested in what happened as in how people see what’s happened… I admit that my ideology influences my historical writings… Indeed the struggle is about ideology, not about facts. Who knows what facts are? We try to convince as many people as we can that our interpretation of the facts is the correct one, and we do it because of ideological reasons, not because we are truthseekers.”

Historians who disdain and distort historic truth, feminists and gays willingly serving as mouthpieces for misogynous and gay-killing regimes, liberals who use storm-trooper tactics to shut down any open discussion, sensitive Moms and Dads who support those who brainwash children and purposely put them in harm’s way, church groups who provide political and financial succor for anti-Christian regimes, African-Americans and South Africans who subvert the term “apartheid” by misusing it to slander the one country in the Middle East where there is none – this Orwellian nightmare cannot be simply called a political movement. It certainly does not promote any specific system of government or any sort of just and balanced peace. Palestinianism is beyond any logic, any facts or sense of fairness. It is a leap of faith, an acceptance of a credo, a total fanatical belief system that permits you to hate the Jewish nation in public....

[Scootaloo]

2. This guy is an idiot.

Shira, why are you posting an idiot's blog entry here?

[shira]

3. I posted it because he nailed it for the most part.

The ideologues he wrote about are 'religious' nutters for whom facts and logic do not matter.

[Scootaloo]

4. So you're in full agreement with an idiot.

Well, that's a little depressing.

[cali]

6. It really is. it's funny and sad all at once- and a bit shocking.

[shira]

7. Yes, the level of our discussion here is depressing....

I said he nailed it for the most part.

How does that put me in full agreement with what he wrote?

[Scootaloo]

9. Well, you posted it in full, without even a modicum of critique

Everything he jotted down in this post is beyond stupid. And you drag it here, in full, and happily proclaim he "nailed it."

You obviously agree. And whatever mysterious disagreements you have obviously aren't enough for you to second-guess it at all.

But y'know. if this is what you really wanna go with, some bargain bin version of Dan Brown who yarks up random Palestinian-bashing bullshit on an unmoderated blog section of a right-wing paper, and proclaim its near-perfection... by all means.

[shira]

13. Aww, wrong again. I didn't post it in full. I stopped short before the end....

But please, do keep telling me what I really believe while you continue to derail the thread without getting into 1 single argument the writer made.

[Scootaloo]

17. None of his arguments are worth "getting into," Shira

Given the size of this cow pat of a blog post, I can tell you right off it would take me like three hours to properly dissect it. Of course, i already know that I would find that Roy Doliner is an idiot, that his blog post is stupid, and that it's fucking baffling that it would be brought here, even by you. You will of course stick corn cobs in your ears and ignore the analysis anyway, so I would be wasting my effort, to provide a dissection, with a foregone conclusion.

I'm saving myself three hours of analysis and typing by just pointing out he's an idiot, the post is stupid, and that I'm embarrassed on your behalf for its presence here.

[shira]

19. LOL, still nothing substantive. See #18....

Chomsky and Finkelstein have made the same arguments in the past, that BDS is a cult consisting of and supported by religious nutters. Those who subscribe to Palestinianism support or at the very least condone BDS.

I don't hear Team Palestine calling Finkelstein or Chomsky idiots for making the same argument.

[Scootaloo]

20. And now you know why I'm not wasting my time

Sorry shira. You found an idiot, and brought his stupid blog post here. I'm busy cooking dinner on one hand and organizing a group for some shit that ctually matters in another. Tell you what. You say you don't totally agree, how aboutyou show us all the parts you disagree with, with some substantive discourse on that, and we'll go from there maybe.

[cali]

11. wow. that so substantive. I love the smell of your hypocrisy in the early evening, shiira.

It's so cute shira. just so right wing adorable, shira.

[NordicLeft]

35. +1

[cali]

5. bwahahahaah, shira.

gobsmackingly stupid. that you see any merit in this piece of shit, is most amusting and very revealing, honey.

[shira]

8. And yet, no substance behind your critique.

Pity.

[cali]

10. here shira, my sweet

Saying that there is such a thing as a religion called Palestinianism is a heap of dung. It's patently, on its face, absurd. and because you are such a dyed in the wool right winger, it's fitting that you'd post it. It's exactly the argument that you wingers use when it comes to evolution, i.e. "Darwinism is a religion."

Just own your right wing crap

[shira]

16. The writer made a claim and backed it up....

...with plenty of examples.

Sorry he struck a nerve.

[Scootaloo]

12. Why waste substance on utter drek?

[azurnoir]

15. well not really revealing at all at least for us frequent I/P flyers because

almost since day 1 here at the core of this DUers posts is the meme that those who support Palestinian self determination including folks at DU are really motivated by hatred for Jews and using Palestinians as a vehicle for this and that's just the tip of the iceberg

[shira]

18. Recall that Noam Chomsky & Norm Finkelstein made the same argument.....

Finkelstein called BDS a cult.

Chomsky was quoted at DemocracyNow stating:

One of the oddities of what’s called the BDS movement is that they can’t—many of the activists just can’t see support as support unless it becomes something like almost worship:

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/11/noam_chomsky_on_bds_and_how

This is Palestinianism and the writer nailed it.

Sorry it struck a nerve.

[azurnoir]

21. no nerve was struck nothing more than the obvious being stated

and really I don't give a monkey's hairless rump what Chomsky or Finkelstein have to say, seems more important to you than me

[grossproffit]

14. K & R

[oberliner]

22. "they are always correct in their views, and always hold the high moral ground"

Ain't that the truth.

[shira]

23. And their opponents are always rightwing, racist Islamophobes....

So there's no point having any substantive dialogue with them, ever.

The morally superior are above that.

[oberliner]

26. That's one of the reasons these discussions don't really go anywhere

There is just no chance of anything productive happening - which makes me wonder what draws me to spend so much time on my posts here.

[shaayecanaan]

24. This isn't just the pot calling the kettle black...

this is the pot calling the kettle black, metallic and hollow.

Pretty much every criticism here could easily be made of the writer and his ilk, and you know it.

[oberliner]

25. I would not be surprised to see a similar blog entry mocking "hasbarados" along the same lines

Except that one would have different people thinking it was cute and clever.

[Israeli]

27. There is a bright side to this .....

When 'they' spend all the time and trouble to come up with laughable nonsense like this ....then you know that your getting under 'their' skin and that something is working .

And it is working ........

Censorship in the American Jewish community

Support for groups like JVP has grown significantly since the latest war against Gaza. Disenfranchising this ever-growing segment of concerned American Jews will only escalate the decline in our community.

By Seth Morrison

The past year has seen increasing efforts within the American Jewish community to censor anybody who believes that boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) are the way to end the occupation — censorship that is most often targeted at Jewish Voice for Peace. And yet, JVP continues to grow.

JVP is not anti-Israel, it is anti-occupation. Our belief that that the people living in Israel-Palestine are the ones who must decide on their own political formulations does not negate that we are committed Jews acting according to Jewish teachings of how to treat your neighbors. We support any solution that fully recognizes and respects the human rights and aspirations of both peoples — and that includes people with varying political visions for the end of the conflict.

Within JVP I have met many people who like me think that a two-state solution is best, many who believe in a single state with strong guarantees for all, and an increasing number who would like to see a two-state solution but believe that Israel has closed that door in the last few years.

Whenever I have expressed my support for a two-state solution to JVP members, responses have always been respectful. I have never been shut down, accused of being anti-Palestinian or called names. Yet some of my Jewish friends have totally cut me off, refuse to interact with me online or in person and have called me a traitor, accused me of ignoring the Holocaust or called me names that I won’t repeat. I expected some pushback and honest debate, but censorship and alienation are dangerous to the future of the American Jewish community.

Continued @
http://972mag.com/censorship-in-the-american-jewish-community/98419/

[shira]

28. LOL @ JVP. They're sponsoring Alison Weir...

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...who said Jews committed human sacrifices in the middle ages, and that explains the attitude of Zionists vs. non-Jews today (organ harvesting). Straight up David Duke KKK ugliness and JVP couldn't give a shit...

https://twitter.com/JVPSanDiego/status/522836855763382273

JVP sponsoring such a fringe lunatic is an example of the religion of Palestinianism.

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It's not that JVP and BDS get under people's skin. As Thomas Paine stated, "It is an affront to truth to treat falsehood with complaisance". Many disgusting, vile movements started small and grew like viruses. It's our duty as good people to stop or at least slow them down.

[azurnoir]

29. your hyperlink goes to Counter punch underlined in the cut and paste below

did you know hyperlinks don't ork in copy/cut and past?

8. LOL @ JVP. They're sponsoring Alison Weir...

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...who said Jews committed human sacrifices in the middle ages, and that explains the attitude of Zionists vs. non-Jews today (organ harvesting). Straight up David Duke KKK ugliness and JVP couldn't give a shit...

https://twitter.com/JVPSanDiego/status/522836855763382273

JVP sponsoring such a fringe lunatic is an example of the religion of Palestinianism.

=================

It's not that JVP and BDS get under people's skin. As Thomas Paine stated, "It is an affront to truth to treat falsehood with complaisance". Many disgusting, vile movements started small and grew like viruses. It's our duty as good people to stop or at least slow them down.

now the claims about Weir in this case are pure BS, she cited a book as an example of what happens when what is written doesn't fit the common narrative the book BTW was written by a Rabbi Toaff from Bar IIan University

In scanning through the reaction to Bostrom’s report, one is struck by the multitude of charges that his article is a new version of the old anti-Semitic “blood libel.” Given that fact, it is interesting to examine a 2007 book by Israel’s preeminent expert on medieval Jewish history, and what happened to him.

The author is Bar-Ilan professor (and rabbi) Ariel Toaff, son of the former chief rabbi of Rome, a religious leader so famous that an Israeli journalist writes that Toaff’s father “is to Italian Jewry as the Eiffel Tower is to Paris.” Ariel Toaff, himself, is considered “one of the greatest scholars in his field.” (22, 23)

In February 2007 the Israeli and Italian media were abuzz (though most of the U.S. media somehow missed it) with news that Professor Toaff had written a book entitled "Pasque di Sangue" (“Blood Passovers”) (24) containing evidence that there “was a factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”

Based on 35 years of research, Toaff had concluded that there were at least a few, possibly many, real incidents.

In an interview with an Italian newspaper (the book was published in Italy), Toaff says:

“My research shows that in the Middle Ages, a group of fundamentalist Jews did not respect the biblical prohibition and used blood for healing. It is just one group of Jews, who belonged to the communities that suffered the severest persecution during the Crusades. From this trauma came a passion for revenge that in some cases led to responses, among them ritual murder of Christian children.” (25)

(Incidentally, an earlier book containing similar findings was published some years ago, also by an Israeli professor, Israel Shahak, of whom Noam Chomsky once wrote, “Shahak is an outstanding scholar, with remarkable insight and depth of knowledge. His work is informed and penetrating, a contribution of great value.” ) (26)

Professor Toaff was immediately attacked from all sides, including pressure orchestrated by Anti-Defamation League chairman Abe Foxman, but Toaff stood by his 35 years of research, announcing:

"I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even if the world crucifies me… One shouldn’t be afraid to tell the truth."

Before long, however, under relentless public and private pressure, Toaff had recanted, withdrawn his book, and promised to give all profits that had already accrued (the book had been flying off Italian bookshelves) to Foxman’s Anti-Defamation League. A year later he published a “revised version.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/08/28/israeli-organ-harvesting/

[shira]

30. Hyperlink works for me even on a different cpu....

And Toaff's claim was totally discredited, well before Weir's nasty article. Toaff admitted it himself. The claim is baseless and false, but unfortunately the damage is done so that David Duke and his fellow clowns can run wild with such conspiracy theories....
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/israel/mks_out_blood_over_prof%27s_%27libel%27_book

Same shit, different century with the blood libel. There's also absolutely no doubt whatsoever Alison Weir is a gutter anti-semite. Think about it, Azurnoir: Weir is trying to prove how evil Zionists are by going back in history to medieval times; to show allegedly how the Jews then (and now) use the blood (or organs) of non-Jews. Evil Zionists today acting like the Jews (their ancestors) of the past. This is repulsive bigotry.

Anyone decent should be outraged at BDS for sponsoring such a hateful bigot. Well, except for the intentionally blind who support BDS right or wrong...

Will someone here, anyone, condemn BDS for the pig's head in the kosher section? For sponsoring Alison Weir...?



I won't hold my breath waiting.

[azurnoir]

31. your claim and I will repeat it again had concerned Allison Weir and it too was discredited

8. LOL @ JVP. They're sponsoring Alison Weir...

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...who said Jews committed human sacrifices in the middle ages, and that explains the attitude of Zionists vs. non-Jews today (organ harvesting). Straight up David Duke KKK ugliness and JVP couldn't give a shit...

https://twitter.com/JVPSanDiego/status/522836855763382273

JVP sponsoring such a fringe lunatic is an example of the religion of Palestinianism.

=================

It's not that JVP and BDS get under people's skin. As Thomas Paine stated, "It is an affront to truth to treat falsehood with complaisance". Many disgusting, vile movements started small and grew like viruses. It's our duty as good people to stop or at least slow them down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=86198

except Allison Weir did not say that as I very plainly showed

and BTW hyperlinks do not work when cut and paste now ask me where I learned that yours in comment #8 went to counterpunch

[shira]

32. Are you defending Weir? She referred to bogus blood libels....

....from the middle ages in order to show a link between the Jews back then with Jews of today (organ harvesting).

Are you denying that's anti-semitic? Deflecting from BDS sponsoring someone as vile as Weir?

[azurnoir]

33. lol no I'm pointing out the 'mistake' made in your zeal to smear Jewish Voices for Peace

you over reached

[shira]

34. Okay, but u don't see anything wrong w/ JVP sponsoring Weir?

Just as you see nothing wrong with a pig's head in a kosher section?

Do you have a problem condemning those actions?

[azurnoir]

36. the FB page announcing Weirs appearance seems to have been created just for that only that

no other Jewish Voice for Peace San Diego page exists and nothing else before or since is on that page

https://www.facebook.com/jvpsd/posts/1563192373915554

Jewish Voice for Peace main page does not mention Weirs appearance

https://www.facebook.com/JewishVoiceforPeace

as for the rest it's the usual false accusations

[shira]

37. And now denial in order to avoid condemning JVP

Classy.

It's still on JVP San Diego's Facebook page if you scroll all the way down to Oct 16...
https://www.facebook.com/jvpsd?fref=nf

It's also still on their Twitter account as well...
https://twitter.com/JVPSanDiego/status/522836855763382273?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=JVPSanDiego&utm_content=522836855763382273

Maybe you should contact them. Tell them to scrub this from existence since it looks bad for them. I doubt they'd care since they seem proud of supporting Alison Weir.

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And of course the pig's head is a false accusation too. Anything to avoid condemning that one as well. Blind support of JVP and BDS, right or wrong. Like religious adherence.

How disappointing, but not surprising in the least. I totally expected this.

[azurnoir]

38. BTW no mention is made of Weir

on the date of her supposed appearance, this is the sole entry for that date and nothing more until the 24 whn she is still not mentioned, maybe they canceled,

Jewish Voice for Peace San Diego shared a link.
October 22
This phenomenon of quickly forgetting about the lives destroyed is common to imperial powers. For a great study of the phenomenon with regard to the US, read John Tirman's great book, The Deaths of Others.
http://972mag.com/for-the-israeli-media-gaza-lives-are-expendable/97927/
For the Israeli media, Gaza lives are expendable | +972 Magazine
972mag.com
Nearly two months after the end of Operation Protective Edge, the Israeli media refuses to ask the difficult questions. Who decided that killing entire families is now allowed? What is the justification for doing so?…

https://www.facebook.com/jvpsd?fref=nf

the twitter account strangely has only 40 followers

IMO your need to demonize is over riding reason perhaps?

[shira]

39. Still in denial? Unreal...

https://twitter.com/JVPSanDiego/status/522836855763382273/photo/1

There's contact info. for both appearances Oct 22-23. Why not email and confirm it's for real since you think the whole thing is made up by Zionist trolls in order to make JVP and BDS look bad?



What a joke.

The decent thing to do is condemn it. Draw the line somewhere. You can't even do that.

[azurnoir]

40. a mistake was made it seems Weir never appeared

perhaps it was intended but it never happened, I know that will not work for some here but that does seem the case

[shira]

41. How do u know she never appeared?

Are you at least admitting JVP sponsored this event that was allegedly cancelled?

[azurnoir]

42. I am saying no mention was made on JVP San Diego's page and none at all of any kind on the main JVP

you're correct that it was announced by the San Diego branch of JVP on the 16th but on the date of the supposed appear and since then no other mention has been made, period on the outrage scale this rates about a 1.47

[shira]

43. Right, still denying any bigotry from JVP or BDS. SJP also sponsored....

Why not just say this was small potatoes, but nonetheless wrong for JVP, SJP, and BDS to get involved with?

Same WRT the pig's head in the kosher section?

Why all the deflection? Wrong is wrong. Why can't you criticize these organizations?

[azurnoir]

44. goal post change? no deflection just observation which is enough n/t

[shira]

45. It's all deflection in order to deny their bigotry...

Same shit, different day.

I expect better from liberal and progressive anti-racists. I guess some bigotry is acceptable if it comes from groups you support. Criticism and dissent is not allowed. Kinda totalitarian, but no worries...