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Israeli

(4,148 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 02:16 AM Nov 2014

Welcome, Diaspora Jews, to the Israel you’ve been avoiding

For too long, Diaspora Jews have been defending an imaginary Israel. The real one looks much more like the one described in the controversial nation-state bill.

By Asher Schechter

Overall, not a particularly great week to be an Israeli. With the cabinet approving Israel’s highly-contentious “nation-state bill,” it seems the term “Jewish democratic state” has been finally put out to pasture, along with the unicorns, dragons and other mythical beings.

The bill – in actuality, there are three different versions currently vying for approval – aims to solve the innate tension between Israel’s identity as both Jewish and democratic by tilting the balance heavily toward the Jewish side. In effect, it is a right-wing attempt to affirm Israel’s status as “the national homeland of the Jewish people” in accordance with Israel’s Declaration of Independence, but sans pesky Greek traditions that only get in the way.

The version by Likud MK Zeev Elkin, the more extreme of the three and one of the two approved by the cabinet this week, removes the word “democratic” from the definition of Israel’s identity as a nation, makes Israel’s democratic principles secondary to its Jewish identity and allows the state to allow people “belonging to one religion or nationality” to set up “separate communities.”

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.629032
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Welcome, Diaspora Jews, to the Israel you’ve been avoiding (Original Post) Israeli Nov 2014 OP
continued ..... Israeli Nov 2014 #1
Trouble is, this is exactly WHY a large number of Americans support Israel Scootaloo Nov 2014 #2
The article is not only about "Americans" King_David Nov 2014 #3
The Son of my Eyes .... Israeli Nov 2014 #5
I know, and plenty of Americans "support Israel' that aren't jews Scootaloo Nov 2014 #6
Explain in more detail please Scoot ... Israeli Nov 2014 #4
it's always been a "neo-Europe"--like Algeria or ZA, in fact--but with liberal trappings MisterP Nov 2014 #7

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
1. continued .....
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 02:20 AM
Nov 2014

In a softer draft of the bill by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the one that’s expected to win out, the words “Jewish democratic” do appear, but another key word is removed: “equality.” Instead of promising full religious, social and national equality to all citizens, regardless of gender, race or creed, as promised in Israel’s Declaration of Independence, Netanyahu’s bill includes the carefully-worded phrasing “Israel will uphold the personal rights of all citizens in accordance with all laws.”

The fact that the bill caused an acute political crisis that almost broke up the government has contributed to the absolutely panicked way in which the media, both in Israel and abroad, has covered the bill: the ruination of Israel’s democracy, the corruption of Israel’s moral character, no alarm bell was left unrung.

“Since its founding in 1948,” mused a self-described “heartbroken” New York Times editorial this week, “Israel’s very existence and promise – fully embraced by the United States and the world of nations – has been based on the ideal of democracy for all of its people.”

Wait, what?

Let’s get this out of the way right now: The so-called “nation-state bill” that was approved by Israel’s cabinet this week and caused an international uproar is not the historic “turning point” it’s said to be.

What it is is an affirmation of a reality that has been entrenched for a very long time.

Israel, in many ways, has always been more Jewish than democratic. Even without a law like this one to codify it, its legal and legislative systems have often put the needs of Israel’s Jewish population before its adherence to democratic principles. Arab and other non-Jewish citizens of Israel have been systemically discriminated against for decades when it comes to access to education, land, infrastructure, water and political representation.

Even without legislative pieces that sound as if they’ve been lifted from the personal diaries of Daniel François Malan, Israel has a legal system that has allowed hundreds of Jewish communities to reject non-Jewish applicants for housing on the basis of “social suitability.”

Arab Israelis didn’t need new reasons to feel like second-class citizens, even if the current nation-state bill makes it all but official. The bill is not the ruination of democracy in Israel – that ship has sailed long ago.

This is not to say that this bill isn’t bad, or insignificant. It is bad because it codifies and institutionalizes Israel’s worst faults as a nation. It is bad because it lays the foundations for more discriminatory policies and legislation against non-Jews. It is bad because at the heart of it lies great political cynicism, a pandering to nationalist voters prior to the Likud primaries and an election that is expected soon.

“I miss the racists of old,” said Balad MK Jamal Zahalka during a Knesset debate in 2008. “At least they weren’t opportunists who sought cheap popularity.” This week Zahalka was forcibly removed from the Knesset’s podium by vice-speaker of the Knesset Moshe Feiglin, after calling the Likud MK a “fascist.” Any such act against the many Jewish MKs who have called Arab and left-wing MKs “traitors,” “terrorist-lovers” and worse over the years is unthinkable, of course.

So no, the new nation-state bill isn’t the apocalypse. Israel has been a Jewish state with a democratic hobby for a very long time. In fact, something like this should have been expected by anyone who didn’t turn a blind eye to Israel’s behavior in recent decades.

But it does have a silver lining: The proposed bill is so blatant, so clear, that it forces even Israel’s most adamant blind supporters to open their eyes.

In other words: Welcome, Diaspora Jews, to the Israel you’ve been avoiding. For too long, you have been defending an imaginary Israel. The real one looks much like the one described in the new nation-state bill.

For many years, the money, influence and unwavering support of Jews abroad, particularly those in America, has enabled many of the behaviors that contributed to the kind of arrogant solipsism that made Israeli politicians believe they can get away with anything. Much of it was done in the name of an ideal Israel, an Israel that never really existed, a Jewish democratic country that could balance its dual identities.


Now that this image is being revealed for the illusion that it is, Diaspora Jews can use their considerable influence on Israeli politics to help bring about true democracy in Israel.

It’s not going to be an easy battle. In his speech in the Knesset on Wednesday, Netanyahu remained adamant about his intentions to pass his version of the bill, saying to his detractors in a theatrically-shocked voice, “I don’t understand what your problem is.”

And, really, what is their problem? It’s not like Netanyahu is changing anything. He’s simply lifting the veil.

Source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.629032

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
5. The Son of my Eyes ....
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 05:09 AM
Nov 2014

One word missing that upsets us post zionists more than any other KD .....

In a softer draft of the bill by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the one that’s expected to win out, the words “Jewish democratic” do appear, but another key word is removed: “equality.” Instead of promising full religious, social and national equality to all citizens, regardless of gender, race or creed, as promised in Israel’s Declaration of Independence, Netanyahu’s bill includes the carefully-worded phrasing “Israel will uphold the personal rights of all citizens in accordance with all laws.”

“equality”

The Son of my Eyes ....

Benayoun's poetic masterpiece of sheer, undiluted hatred reflects the mood of a large part of Israeli Jews at this point in time. The latest events in Jerusalem have created a climate in which racist hatred can raise its ugly head without shame.
THE CENTER of racism is the government itself. It is completely dominated by the most extreme Right – indeed, there is nothing to the right of it.


FOR SEVERAL weeks now the center of activity has been a bill called "Basic Law: Israel the Nation-State of the Jewish People".

Israel has no constitution. From the beginning, the religious-secular controversy has prevented it.

However, the declaration of independence adopted in May 1948, which has no legal status, defined Israel as a "Jewish State" and promised complete equality to non-Jewish citizens. Later, several Basic Laws defined Israel as a "Jewish and Democratic State", giving equal status to the two components, which often seem contradictory.

The diverse versions of the new bills define Israel as a "Jewish State" only, demoting the "democratic" aspect to second-class status. They abolish the word "equality" altogether. Arabic, which is now the second official language, will lose that status. Discrimination, now practiced clandestinely, will become legal and overt.

These versions were officially adopted last Sunday by the government. However, Binyamin Netanyahu promised to produce a more moderate version before the measure comes to the final vote in the Knesset.

Netanyahu rightly fears that the current versions might set off a world-wide reaction. The "only democracy in the Middle East" would become far less democratic. Tunisia might assume this title.

As far as is known at the moment, Netanyahu's version – which will probably be adopted in the end - will restore the "Jewish and democratic" appellation, but omit the term "equality". The rights of individual non-Jewish citizens will be upheld, but not any collective rights of non-Jewish communities, concerning language, religion and education.

President Rivlin has denounced the bills squarely, much to his credit. Leading jurists have called them "superfluous", doubting that they would effect any real change. Liberal commentators have come out against them. "Moderate" coalition members have threatened to vote against them, or at least to abstain. Perhaps in the end very little will come out of the whole squabble.
But the fact that one can build a career on attacking democracy, on hatred of Israel's 1.7 million Arab citizens – more than 20% of the population – is chilling.

BY THE way, nobody has asked the seven million Jews outside Israel about their stand on the matter.

What do they think about Israel being the "nation-state of the Jewish People"? Do they believe that there is a "Jewish people”? Do they want to owe allegiance to Israel? Do they fear being accused of dual loyalty? Do they want at least to be consulted?
But what the hell, who asks them anyway?


http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1417210312/
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. I know, and plenty of Americans "support Israel' that aren't jews
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 07:31 AM
Nov 2014

Point remains, the discriminatory policies of sirael are a larg part of American support for it.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
4. Explain in more detail please Scoot ...
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 04:48 AM
Nov 2014

What kind of Americans ?
and which Israel ? ......mine or the one this Gov represents ?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. it's always been a "neo-Europe"--like Algeria or ZA, in fact--but with liberal trappings
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 02:55 PM
Nov 2014

Americans also didn't actually like it until Entebbe: before it was a "friendly," but not a special country--more like a big Lebanon (I think Nixon even drew up invasion plans, but that may've been because he was Nixon)

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