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I believe Governor Christie just showed his hand. (Original Post) William769 Jan 2012 OP
Can a plebiscite overturn the NJ Supreme Court's decision? obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #1
Think they are still trying to figure that out in California. William769 Jan 2012 #2
Good point! obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #4
Christie is such a disgustingly ugly Republican bully. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #3
He can't have it. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #5
So basically he said it so his base could hear him say it... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #6
Fantastic -- thanks for that info obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #8
Only if we get the votes to override his veto. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #9
Oy... I just read this article about it. What a prick... w8liftinglady Jan 2012 #7
"The institution of marriage is too serious..." HillWilliam Jan 2012 #10
That stood out as the ultimate in hypocracy dbackjon Jan 2012 #11
The same hypocritical, cynical thing is going on in NC with Amendment One HillWilliam Jan 2012 #12
 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
3. Christie is such a disgustingly ugly Republican bully.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jan 2012

He knows the chances of a Prop 8 type election issue will turn out the fundies, Mormons, and bigots, which are about all the supporters he has left.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
5. He can't have it.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jan 2012

There is no initiative in New Jersey, so a referendum would have to be put on the ballot by the Legislature. They feel (quite correctly, since the NJSC has ruled essentially in their favor) that they don't need one since marriage is defined by statute and not Constitutionally in NJ.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. So basically he said it so his base could hear him say it...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:28 PM
Jan 2012

And those noeandethals can nod their tiny heads and say, yeah, he's one of us.

obamanut2012

(26,046 posts)
8. Fantastic -- thanks for that info
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:56 PM
Jan 2012

So, a good chance both NJ and WA will be added to the marriage equality fold soon.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
9. Only if we get the votes to override his veto.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jan 2012

That's very iffy. Two years ago we didn't even have the votes in the Senate to pass the thing while Jon Corzine was begging to sign it. We won over a couple of disloyal Democrats, but I'm afraid we may not have enough. We have to keep the pressure up.

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
7. Oy... I just read this article about it. What a prick...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:03 PM
Jan 2012

Christie Pledges Gay-Marriage Veto as Democrats Push Forward

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-24/christie-pledges-gay-marriage-veto-as-democrats-push-forward.html

Jan. 24 (Bloomberg) -- New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pledged to veto a same-sex marriage bill, even as Democrats in the Legislature said they have enough votes to pass it.

Christie, a first-term Republican, said he wants voters to consider a constitutional amendment on the issue in November. The debate should happen “in homes, schools, synagogues, churches and ballfields across New Jersey,” Christie, 49, told reporters in Bridgewater today.

“The institution of marriage is too serious to be treated like a political issue,” he said.

The Senate Judiciary Committee passed the measure today, sending it to the full Senate. Lawmakers in Washington state said yesterday they have the votes to legalize gay marriage and Governor Christine Gregoire, a Democrat, has said she’ll sign the bill. Six U.S. states -- New York, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Connecticut -- allow gay marriage.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
10. "The institution of marriage is too serious..."
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:21 AM
Jan 2012

Really, Christie? Britney Spears, Kim Kardashian, Newt Gringrich, and an almighty throng of Repub "holier than thou" pervs treat marriage ever so much more seriously than my 16-year commitment?

Kiss my ass.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
12. The same hypocritical, cynical thing is going on in NC with Amendment One
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jan 2012

The bagger-infested legislature has produced nothing but deep budget cuts to schools, social programs, squabbling, and strife. The "jobs, jobs, jobs" they ran on was forgotten the instant their opponents gave concession speeches at the last election. The only thing they've got left to get the nuts to the polls in a pointedly anti-gay amendment to the state constitution. The only thing.

The horrifically sad part is, it will work.

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