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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:56 PM Feb 2012

Women's issue - false whatever

First we have false boobs, then the styles move to false height.. with shoes so tall now that there have to be platforms.
Now the new thing is false eyelashes. Not the old kind we had in the 1960's but huge, thick caterpillar things.

Complaining about this makes me seem like an old fart, but since I am... I will.

I haven't succumbed to any of the above except I do have a pair of ankle boots that have a 3 inch heel. I only wear them on special occasions.

Anyway, I see these young women trying for a standard of beauty that is so unreal and think back to my younger days when we fought so hard for a natural look and to be accepted for our real selves. Now it seems gals want to be sex-kittens and they use the excuse that it is "empowering". I call b.s. on that.

Edit post to add: thank god they still reject girdles! horrible things

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
1. Reject girdles?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:24 PM
Feb 2012

I guess you haven't heard of Spanx.

I'm on the fence. I love pretty things, and I love dressing up sometimes. But on the other hand I completely agree with your point about being accepted for your organic self.

I really don't know how to feel about most of it and chalk it up to personal taste, but I hope that all women keep the idea of context in mind, and I do disagree strongly with elective cosmetic surgery, pharmaceuticals for longer lashes, etc.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
2. I've heard of spanx.. they are no where near
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:32 PM
Feb 2012

as restrictive as girdles.

I like nice things and I enjoy makeup and I even color my hair. But I do that to cover flaws, not to look like a sex kitten..lol which would be pretty hard anyway since I am 63. I think in my younger days, I would have been considered pretty.... but
if it takes longer that 15 minutes to get together, then I think it's overkill.

I go along with societal norms. That's the way it is, but at some point I feel like enough is enough.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. Yikes.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:36 PM
Feb 2012

I thought Spanx were just a brand name for girdles. Thanks.

"if it takes longer that 15 minutes to get together, then I think it's overkill. "

That's how I see it too, usually. If it's a very special (fancy / high falootin) event I would spend twice that easily though.

I wouldn't even have started coloring my hair if I hadn't started dating a younger man. Now I feel like I'd be conspicuously cougarish if I didn't.

Texasgal

(17,042 posts)
4. The super high heels concern me.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:36 PM
Feb 2012

I love to wear heels and strappy sandals for an evening or an event, but those super, SUPER high heels look like a killer on the back! I cannot imagine trying to walk on pavement in those things!! YIKES!

Now, BRA'S on the other hand... uggg! I'd love them banned personally! LOL!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
6. I don't understand this style of shoe
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:42 PM
Feb 2012

They're what I call stripper shoes... yet they're super popular now.

I don't understand the draw of dressing like a stripper, yet more and more women do that these days, it seems. I commute to work and I see women walking to the subway in them... how is that even possible?



I wear crocs, boots (men's if I can find my size) and tennis shoes. Give me more than an inch heel and I'd fall over and my feet would tell me to take a hike (sorry for the bad pun).

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. they've been cool for decades now.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:44 PM
Feb 2012
but only for clubbing and for youngish girls (19-26)... its not supposed to be a daily shoe or anything

Texasgal

(17,042 posts)
9. But see... your in New York
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:49 PM
Feb 2012

much hipper dressed than down here I would assume.

Let us know when the fad changes to a lower heel and maybe I'll feel fashionable!

Texasgal

(17,042 posts)
8. Yeah, I am seeing more and more
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:45 PM
Feb 2012

of these along with thigh high leather boots with spiky heels. Crazy!

I work as a surgical nurse during the day, so I wear clogs!

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
10. Ok I'll just say this... and if it's against the SOP please someone let me know.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:00 PM
Feb 2012

IMO this is an example of what many people call the "pornification" of society.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. I think I heard a siren sound somewhere...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:08 PM
Feb 2012

Kidding.

I think that's within the SOP.

Discuss all issues affecting women in the U.S. and around the world.


Edited to add:

It just looks painful. On the ankles, on the bed of the foot, I'd get a charlie horse in the arch of my foot... My feet are getting pained just looking at the photo. I say more power to a woman that can wear those without pain.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. I LOL'd :)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
Feb 2012

I was reading recently that women who wear high heels a large percentage of the time are actually shortening their calf muscles, and that it's causing injuries when they switch to flats for exercise or what have you. Alarming stuff, but also possibly alarmist, not sure.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
17. It's true that wearing high heels shortens the calf muscles, actually making the leg look stumpier.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:22 PM
Feb 2012

Strapping one's feet into high heels doesn't allow for the natural range of movement required to keep leg muscles healthy. It also tilts one's body in an unnatural way, which causes spinal injury over time. And it's hell on the feet.

I love high heels and used to wear them a lot, but now that I'm middle aged I can't take the pain anymore. I've mostly switched to flats and sensible pumps when I have to dress up.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
5. i am fine with falsies for the most part. fun eyelashes are fun. sometimes heels are fun.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:41 PM
Feb 2012

i just think what is considered "normal" grooming for women (and to some extent men) gets more and more elaborate by the year. if you live in nyc for instance, getting a brazilian is considered part of normal grooming. its the amount of time and money women have too spend to be considered well groomed, that sometimes really surprises me.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
14. I'm so glad I'm not a young woman
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:19 PM
Feb 2012

I remember back in 1972 when I had my first child how horrified I was when they told me that they would shave my pubes.
The second one in 1984, they didn't.

I guess it is kind of fun to wear stuff to enhance yourself. I'm kind of backtracking now, because I remember what it was like to be young. I still hate those 6 inch heels though. I think they are bad for you!!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
15. My mind just can't encompass reacting to false anything on a man with passion.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:59 PM
Feb 2012

Generally, I can imagine almost anything, but I draw a blank on how anyone can know some physical feature is artificial and still enjoy it sexually.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
16. Hi... I found this
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:01 PM
Feb 2012
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/25/scientists-look-at-the-dangers-of-high-heels/



A Scientific Look at the Dangers of High Heels

This is a snip from the middle of the article:

All of the women strode multiple times along a 26-foot-long walkway that contained a plate to gauge the forces generated as they walked. The control group covered the walkway 10 times while barefoot. The other women walked barefoot 10 times and in their chosen heels 10 times.

It was obvious, as the scientists had suspected watching the woman during their coffee break, that the women habituated to high heels walked differently from those who usually wore flats, even when the heel wearers went barefoot. But the nature and extent of the differences were surprising. In results published last week in The Journal of Applied Physiology, the scientists found that heel wearers moved with shorter, more forceful strides than the control group, their feet perpetually in a flexed, toes-pointed position. This movement pattern continued even when the women kicked off their heels and walked barefoot. As a result, the fibers in their calf muscles had shortened and they put much greater mechanical strain on their calf muscles than the control group did.

In that control group, the women who rarely wore heels, walking primarily involved stretching and stressing their tendons, especially the Achilles tendon. But in the heel wearers, the walking mostly engaged their muscles.

That biomechanical distinction is important, says Dr. Cronin, who is now a researcher at the University of Jyvaskyla in Finland. “Several studies have shown that optimal muscle-tendon efficiency” while walking “occurs when the muscle stays approximately the same length while the tendon lengthens. When the tendon lengthens, it stores elastic energy and later returns it when the foot pushes off the ground. Tendons are more effective springs than muscles,” he continues. So by stretching and straining their already shortened calf muscles, the heel wearers walk less efficiently with or without heels, he says, requiring more energy to cover the same amount of ground as people in flats and probably causing muscle fatigue.
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