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A Canadian Teen Wrote The Best Rebuttal After Getting Detention For Wearing A Halter Dress (Original Post) Novara May 2015 OP
There is a social difference between men and women in terms of dress. MADem May 2015 #1
Greatest thing about being an older woman is that I can say "Hi" to anyone, man, woman or JDPriestly May 2015 #2
A long time ago, in a place far, far away, called Houston Xipe Totec May 2015 #3
Last week my granddaughter brer cat May 2015 #4
you're welcome Novara May 2015 #5
brava for brevity!! niyad May 2015 #6

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. There is a social difference between men and women in terms of dress.
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:29 PM
May 2015

It's "allowed" for women or girls to reveal more skin than men or boys, the great exception being the "no shirt" look we see amongst young, fit males (and occasionally, the plump and not-so-muscled ones as well). That sort of thing happens at parties, at the beach, in warm weather, but not in a school environment.

Maybe all the boys in the schools should turn up in halter tops, as well. It would make for an interesting discussion on the whole "politics" of clothing and showing skin and how it relates to issues of power and the whole "modesty" game as well.

Don't know if this would ever find an audience, but one never knows....

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Greatest thing about being an older woman is that I can say "Hi" to anyone, man, woman or
Sun May 17, 2015, 08:40 PM
May 2015

child and I don't have to worry that the man is going to think I am flirting. It's wonderful. What a free feeling. It's so great. Men don't make rude remarks any more.

It makes up for a lot of disadvantages.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
3. A long time ago, in a place far, far away, called Houston
Sun May 17, 2015, 10:09 PM
May 2015

When I was younger, several lifetimes ago, I found myself in a strip club...

Where I locked eyes with a beautiful stripper... Naked as the day she was born...

We locked eyes throughout her entire performance...

Why? Because her face, and her eyes especially, were the most stunning feature of that gift to humanity.

Her body was beautiful, but no more beautiful, or special than so many bodies I have seen before... Thousands of bodies...

But that face... and those eyes...

I was enchanted.

And I saw that she was too; engaged in that connection.

After her performance, she came by, to my place at the bar.

We had a long conversation.

She told me of her dreams and aspirations. Of her struggle to stay in college. Of her desire to continue and get a degree....

I learned that stripping was her way to get the money she needed to continue her college education.

We talked for a long time. About life, about ironies, about the sacrifices and compromises we need to make to survive....

She was at that moment in my life, one of the most coherent human being that had ever had a conversation with me.

We parted company, I left a hefty tip, and I NEVER SAW HER AGAIN. That was over forty years ago.

I've always wondered about her; how she did, whether she reached her goals...

But one thing that was clear to me from that point forward, and for the rest of my life, is that the most beautiful human feature is the face, and especially the eyes... Those parts of the body that are open and exposed to all other human beings around, exposed at least in Western culture, are the sexiest, most attractive, most enticing, most intriguing parts of our bodies...

Our faces, and our eyes...

brer cat

(24,560 posts)
4. Last week my granddaughter
Mon May 18, 2015, 07:28 AM
May 2015

went on a school trip to a nearby lake. After she got home she said she didn't get to swim because she forgot her gym shorts which the girls were required to wear over their bathing suits. When her mother asked "why?", she replied "Because the boys..." They are sending the wrong message to our young girls.

That was a great response. Thanks for posting, Novara.

Novara

(5,841 posts)
5. you're welcome
Mon May 18, 2015, 08:39 AM
May 2015

It all comes down to fairness and mutual respect, which obviously still isn't taught to young people.

She really did have a great response. It isn't a woman/girl's job to keep you from leering at her - it's your job not to leer at women.

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