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Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:41 AM Jan 2014

Kale? Juicing? Trouble Ahead

I was into health food before it was cool.

(snip)

Imagine my shock, then, at my last physical, when my doctor told me I had hypothyroidism, common in women over 40. When I got home I looked up the condition on the Internet and found a list of foods to avoid. Kale, which I juiced every morning, tops the list, followed by broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, Brussels sprouts and collard greens — the cruciferous vegetables I consumed in large quantities because they are thought to prevent cancer, which runs in my family. And flax — as in the seeds — high in omega 3’s, that I sprinkled on cereal and blended in strawberry almond milk smoothies. Also forbidden: almonds and strawberries, not to mention soy, peaches, peanuts, corn, radishes, rutabaga and spinach.

And then, as if my world was not sufficiently rocked, I went to the dentist, who said I had five cavities and asked if I snacked on candy and sodas all day long. I was insulted. Indignant. What did he take me for? No, I answered. I don’t eat sugar and drink only fresh vegetable juices — no longer kale, of course, but carrot and celery, which I’m still allowed. And filtered water with lemon.

“You’d be better off with chocolate and cola,” he said. Apparently the natural sugars in fruit and vegetable juices can cause decay, and lemon, though high in vitamin C and bioflavonoids which may prevent cancer, had eroded the enamel that protected my teeth. I argued that I always brushed afterward. “Worst thing you can do,” he said. “That’s when the teeth are most vulnerable. Always wait half an hour after eating or drinking anything before brushing your teeth. And don’t brush more than twice daily. You’re destroying what little enamel you have left.”

I thought he might collapse when he asked what toothpaste I used and I said non-fluoride brands from the health food store. He steadied himself on the arm of the dental chair and let out a long sigh before sending me home with a prescription for an extra-strength fluoride toothpaste... I got home and looked up my new toothpaste on the Internet. There I read that fluoride is linked to hypothyroidism. In fact, it’s been used as a medication for hyperthyroid patients, who have the condition opposite to mine.

Which should I choose? My thyroid or my teeth? I suppose in the long run my thyroid is more important, though the image of my grandmother’s dentures soaking in cup of water flashed through my mind.

(snip)

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/kale-juicing-trouble-ahead/?_r=0

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Kale? Juicing? Trouble Ahead (Original Post) question everything Jan 2014 OP
Hmm...I am hypo as well taking Synthroid, very low dose for years - NRaleighLiberal Jan 2014 #1
Some Things To Consider If You Have Choices You Need To Make left on green only Jan 2014 #2
I'm hypothyroid, too. I'm a hospice nurse. Believe me mucifer Jan 2014 #3
This is interesting to me. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #5
I'm hypo too newfie11 Jan 2014 #4
Please research cooking the greens!!! That gets rid flamingdem Jan 2014 #6

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
1. Hmm...I am hypo as well taking Synthroid, very low dose for years -
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:44 AM
Jan 2014

but last check up found they need to up my dose. And I am also big time into greens, cruciferous veggies, etc.....now you have me wondering.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
2. Some Things To Consider If You Have Choices You Need To Make
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 01:45 AM
Jan 2014

If you should ever have a choice between hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism, go with the hyperthyroidism. The reason being that hyperthyroidism is much easier to control using medications, than is hypothyroidism.

If you have a choice between cancer and decaying teeth, go with the teeth because your teeth can be capped or crowned with a synthetic material that will render them impervious to decay, if the caps and crowns are installed correctly. Granted, getting a cap or a crown is very expensive, even for just one tooth, but compared to cancer, it is definitely the way to go.

There is also one other benefit. In the past I had always been ashamed of my teeth because of poor alignment and amalgam fillings, but now that they are capped, I have a Farrah Fawcett smile and near perfect alignment. In addition, because my roots have been preserved, they are still almost as strong as they were before the teeth became decayed.

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mucifer

(23,530 posts)
3. I'm hypothyroid, too. I'm a hospice nurse. Believe me
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:55 AM
Jan 2014

hypothyroid is much better than cancer or heart disease or lung disease. Oh and I'm also a vegan and that isn't changing any time soon. I'm over 40 also. My body isn't the same as it was before.

The good news is that accurate thyroid function tests are available to diagnose hypothyroidism, and treatment of hypothyroidism with synthetic thyroid hormone is usually simple, safe and effective once you and your doctor find the right dose for you.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypothyroidism/basics/definition/con-20021179

Also from the mayo clinic website:

Generally, there's no hypothyroidism diet. Although claims about hypothyroidism diets abound, there's no evidence that eating or avoiding certain foods will improve thyroid function in people with hypothyroidism.

Avoid taking your thyroid hormone at the same time as:

Walnuts
Soybean flour
Cottonseed meal
Iron supplements or multivitamins containing iron
Calcium supplements
Antacids that contain aluminum or magnesium
Some ulcer medications, such as sucralfate (Carafate)
Some cholesterol-lowering drugs, such as cholestyramine (Questran) and colestipol (Colestid)
To avoid potential interactions, eat these foods or use these products several hours before or after you take your thyroid medication.


http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypothyroidism/expert-answers/hypothyroidism-diet/FAQ-20058554

Talk to your doctor about this.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
5. This is interesting to me.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:56 AM
Jan 2014

I am also hypothyroid and have been on the same dose of Synthroid for years. We started drinking green smoothies for breakfast in November, different combinations, but with quite a bit of spinach and other greens. When we went for physicals earlier this month, my TSH was elevated to 5 something after testing at 1 to 2 for many years.

Am I to assume it's the greens? If I were to drink the green smoothie at lunch instead of for breakfast (I take my pill first thing in the morning) would it reverse this trend. I really don't want to give up my smoothies if I don't have to.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
4. I'm hypo too
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:08 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Not from veggies. Mine is from
fallout from testing nuclear bombs. My entire family is hypo as was our dog.
I cannot take synthroid or levothyroxin as allergic to both. I am on Armour Thyroid.
I love broccoli, cabbage, etc and not about to give them up.
Take you thyroid meds and juice. The cause may not be the juicing.

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