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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Wed May 14, 2014, 03:31 PM May 2014

Mayo Clinic trial: Massive blast of measles vaccine wipes out cancer

http://www.startribune.com/investigators/259155541.html

"Stacy Erholtz was out of conventional treatment options for blood cancer last June when she underwent an experimental trial at the Mayo Clinic that injected her with enough measles vaccine to inoculate 10 million people.

The 50-year-old Pequot Lakes mother is now part of medical history.

The cancer, which had spread widely through her body, went into complete remission and was undetectable in Erholtz’s body after just one dose of the measles vaccine, which has an uncanny affinity for certain kinds of tumors.

Erholtz was one of just two subjects in the experiment and the only one to achieve complete remission. But the experiment provides the “proof of concept” that a single, massive dose of intravenous viral therapy can kill cancer by overwhelming its natural defenses, according to Dr. Stephen Russell, a professor of molecular medicine who spearheaded the research at Mayo.

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Ridiculously preliminary research, but still interesting.

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Mayo Clinic trial: Massive blast of measles vaccine wipes out cancer (Original Post) HuckleB May 2014 OP
The anti-vases heads Bickle May 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author mzmolly May 2014 #25
This could be a truly significant breakthrough. nt Damansarajaya May 2014 #2
"enough measles vaccine to inoculate 10 million people." Javaman May 2014 #3
You do, apparently: life. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #9
High School Anat & Phys teacher said Thor_MN May 2014 #14
You do Half-Century Man May 2014 #15
The CDC has this... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #16
Great news mrmule May 2014 #4
sadly ^^ mopinko May 2014 #5
Welcome to DU, mrmule! calimary May 2014 #21
Do the patients develop autism as a result? Orrex May 2014 #6
Why would they do that? blackspade May 2014 #7
Super-concentrated MEGA autism! n/t trotsky May 2014 #8
I can't WAIT for the new talking points. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #10
Will the talking head actually talk about this or ignore it, like they do most other useful news? nt valerief May 2014 #20
Here you go. I've excerpted a specific comment: (paraphrasing) no surprise, what took so long, GO4IT proverbialwisdom May 2014 #29
A quote from Dr. Harold Buttram? NickB79 Jul 2014 #33
No idea, not my field as noted, so objectionable source above deleted. But ALL the rest? (nt) proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author HuckleB Jul 2014 #37
+1 progressoid May 2014 #11
Careful...you'll be accused of woo! Sancho May 2014 #12
Science is terrific Sienna86 May 2014 #13
very interesting. Thanks for sharing. mountain grammy May 2014 #17
Any time! HuckleB May 2014 #18
My, my, my. Very interesting. I suppose Donald Rumsfeld will corner the measles vaccine market now. valerief May 2014 #19
That is fascinating. Now I wanna know if there are any long term side affects, etc. WhoWoodaKnew May 2014 #22
Let me get this straight... CanSocDem May 2014 #23
That's quite the anti-science rant. HuckleB May 2014 #24
+ ellenrr Jul 2014 #31
What do you like about that post? HuckleB Jul 2014 #32
Fascinating. mzmolly May 2014 #26
Wow lostincalifornia May 2014 #27
some people with cancer seek out people with measles Celebration May 2014 #28
Interesting! Quantess Jul 2014 #30
du rec. xchrom Jul 2014 #34
Gracias! HuckleB Jul 2014 #36

Response to Bickle (Reply #1)

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
3. "enough measles vaccine to inoculate 10 million people."
Wed May 14, 2014, 04:25 PM
May 2014

Damn, not only should it get rid of the cancer but, hell, you should get some sort of super power from that.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
14. High School Anat & Phys teacher said
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

"When I was in school, I learned that in on ejaculation there was enough sperm to impregnate 100 million women. Immediately, that became my goal."


Seriously, this is a great finding and could lead to cures. Too bad for the anti-vax crowd, they will just have to cope.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
15. You do
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:39 PM
May 2014

The super power of advanced years.

Having been in her shoes and achieving my own super power through modern medicine; trust me, living long enough to see your spouse get old and your children grow is power.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
5. sadly ^^
Wed May 14, 2014, 04:43 PM
May 2014

except in mexico, where you will be able to buy it at the flea market, but children will once again die for want of vaccine.

srsly, amazing news. just these kinds of big stories usually give me a bit of the heebie jeebies.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
21. Welcome to DU, mrmule!
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:36 PM
May 2014

Glad you're here! Isn't it a shame that we even have to go there in our thoughts? This lovely system of ours is just all about money and how much you can get out of somebody else. Sucks. HEALTH should not be a commodity to be bought and sold. Seems to me it should be a basic human right.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. I can't WAIT for the new talking points.
Wed May 14, 2014, 05:08 PM
May 2014

I'm sure it'll be along the lines of combining MMR, rather than any single monovalent vaccine.

It's a god-of-the-gaps argument. We prove something works, they just re-position their boogeyman.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
29. Here you go. I've excerpted a specific comment: (paraphrasing) no surprise, what took so long, GO4IT
Sat May 17, 2014, 04:09 PM
May 2014

Last edited Sun Jul 27, 2014, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/05/weekly-wrap-measles-cancer-autism-autoimmunity.html#comments

Weekly Wrap: Measles, Cancer, Autoimmunity, Autism
By Dan Olmsted


...Now the question: Does this suggest that wild-type measles infection, the kind hundreds of thousands of kids caught every year before the measles vaccine arrived in the 1960s, performs some unsuspected function in preventing the occurrence of cancer? And the follow-up: Did mass vaccination wipe out this protection?

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COMMENTS

Posted by: cia parker | May 17, 2014 at 02:30 PM


Less cancer of the ovary in women who had mumps in childhood:

West, R., "Epidemiologic study of malignancies of the ovaries," Cancer 1966: 19(1001-7)
Newhouse M.L., Pearson R.M., "A case control study of carcinoma of the ovary," Brit J Prev Soc Med 1977; 31: 148-153,

People with cancer being cured or put into temporary remission by natural case of measles:

Pasquinucci G, "Possible effects of measles on leukemia," Lancet Jan 16, 1971, 136.
Gross S., "Measles and leukemia," Lancet, Feb. 20, 1971; 397-8.
Natural rubella has had the same effect (Pasquinacci op.cit.)

Pediatric nephrotic syndrome has been cured of put into remission by deliberately infecting patients with natural measles.

Hutchins G., "Observations on the relationship of measles and remissions in the nephrotic syndrome," Am J Dis Child 1947; 73: 242-3.
Blumberg R.W., et al, "Effect of measles on the nephrotic syndrome," Am J Dis Child 1947; 151-166.

The Lancet in 1971 published an article with before and after photographs of a boy hospitalized with a large tumor over his right eye caused by Burkitt's lymphoma. He caught measles while at the hospital, and it effected the complete cure of his cancer without treatment. The tumor began to shrink the day the measles rash appeared, nine days later he still had a little of the rash, but the tumor was much smaller. By the time the article was published four months later, the boy was in complete remission from the cancer (without treatment).

Bluming A.Z., "Regression of Burkitt's lymphoma in association with measles infection," Lancet July 10, 1971; 105-6.

As early as 1910, the Viennese surgeon R. Schmidt said that many of his cancer patients told him that they had always been in good health and had rarely suffered from feverish illnesses,

"Krebs und Infektionskrankheiten," in Medizinische Klinik no. 43, 1910, 1630-1633.

By the end of the '40s, Dr. Schmidt believed that having the natural diseases provided some protection against cancer.

British researchers have found that women who had measles, rubella, and mumps as children developed ovarian cancer much less frequently than those who hadn't.

McGowan, "The woman at risk of developing ovarian cancer," in Gynecological Oncology, no 7, 1979, 325-344.

In a controlled Swiss study of 379 cancer patients, a much lower chance of developing cancer was found in people who had suffered the childhood illnesses. The risk of cancer, apart from breast cancer, fell by 20% for each childhood illness.

Albonico H.U., "Febrile infectious childhood diseases in the history of cancer patients and matched controls," in Medical Hypotheses, no. 51, 1988, 315-320.

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Another recent AOA comment posted this HUGE link: http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm394905.htm
More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11247646

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NickB79

(19,233 posts)
33. A quote from Dr. Harold Buttram?
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 12:43 AM
Jul 2014

THIS Harold Buttram?

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/02/07/the-vilest-antivaccine-lie-that-wont-die/

Harold Buttram is downright “famous” (if you can call it that) as the guru of the antivaccine movement claiming that SBS is in reality vaccine injury. He’s made a name for himself over the years. As I’ve noted, his bogus hypothesis has been featured in the journal of the crank organization, the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons. It also turns out that Buttram is a favorite of Medical Voices, which ultimately became the International Medical Council on Vaccination. You’ll note that Buttram, unlike many “luminaries” of the antivaccine movement, doesn’t show up on the blogs or websites of the “big three” antivaccine groups, Generation Rescue (and its associated blog, Age of Autism), SafeMinds, or the National Vaccine Information Center. Here’s an observation. If your brand of antivaccine pseudoscience is so crazy that even AoA, Safeminds, and NVIC want nothing to do with you, you ought to take another look and ask yourself is maybe–just maybe–you’re so wrong as to be not even wrong. When, for instance, the likes of Jenny McCarthy, Barbara Loe Fisher, J.B. Handley, and even Jake Crosby take a look at your bizarre hypothesis and respond, “Meh, I don’t think so,” you really ought to take a second look and consider the possibility that you might be a total loon. Of course, part and parcel of being a total loon is that you don’t realize you’re a total loon, and certainly Harold Buttram doesn’t realize it. In any case, Frompovich has no clue that being associated with Buttram is not something a normal person would be proud of.

Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #35)

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
22. That is fascinating. Now I wanna know if there are any long term side affects, etc.
Thu May 15, 2014, 11:14 AM
May 2014

Anyone have a time machine I can borrow for -1 second?


 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
23. Let me get this straight...
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:27 AM
May 2014


A pharmaceutical concoction designed and marketed for something else entirely, turns out to be a cure for cancer and the medical industry starts taking bows...??? WTF?

More evidence that pharmaceutical solutions routinely miss the mark. Or that they just don't matter except in economics.


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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
32. What do you like about that post?
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 08:28 PM
Jul 2014

It seems completely lacking in logic to me, so can explain why you gave it a plus? Thanks!

Celebration

(15,812 posts)
28. some people with cancer seek out people with measles
Sat May 17, 2014, 01:53 PM
May 2014

I've read various blogs on stuff like this, and seen advice like "if you have melanoma, seek out someone with measles and try to catch it from them." Also, BCG vaccine (tuberculosis I think??) has been used by some institutions in California to create enough of an immune response to combat cancer.

Vaccines of various types for various types of cancer are the hottest new thing in cancer treatment. Very cool to try a huge dose of measles vaccine, which probably gave the recipients a full blown case of the measles, and a possibility of a cure for their cancer.

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