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Related: About this forumHuge Study links Aspartame to Major Problems.
As concerns about health epidemics plague the nation, demand and sales of diet soda have plunged as consumers try to make better choices. As we reported yesterday, aspartamethe main sweetener for diet sodais one of the most dangerous ingredients used in our food supply, causing seizures and a host of other health issues.
In a new study done over ten years and sampling 60,000 women, it was shown that women who drink two or more diet drinks a day have much higher cardiovascular disease rates and are more likely to die from the disease.
n the largest study done of its kind, The University of Iowa concluded:
[C]ompared to women who never or only rarely consume diet drinks, those who consume two or more a day are 30 percent more likely to have a cardiovascular event [heart attack or stroke] and 50 percent more likely to die from related disease.
This is one of the largest studies on this topic, and our findings are consistent with some previous data, especially those linking diet drinks to the metabolic syndrome, says Dr. Ankur Vyas
the lead investigator of the study.
http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/12974-is-this-the-end-of-diet-soda.html?c=tca
glowing
(12,233 posts)That should be enough to keep anyone away!
pleinair
(171 posts)When aspartame got its rush-rush approval from the fda
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)and has been linked to nerve problems, migraines and seizures. Not to mention is makes you addicted and fat. He got it rush-approved through back channels to make scads of cash.
But according to the woo warriors of DU, you can put anything in your body because it doesn't matter.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Right up until it is not.
tridim
(45,358 posts)DebJ
(7,699 posts)On average, women who consumed two or more diet drinks a day were younger, more likely to be smokers, and had a higher prevalence of diabetes, high blood pressure, and higher body mass index.
Not that I'd drink diet soda; I had a liter of it one day and the artificial sweetener sent me to the ER...turned out it paralyzed my stomach.... with, the ER doc said
with a malicious grin, 2 liters of compressed gas in it. All I could think of at the time was that I hoped my stomach would recover. It did, many painful hours later. According to that doctor, each liter of soda has 2 liters of compressed gas.
I'm killing myself with Dr. Pepper instead.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)And then you blame it on artificial sweetener???
goldent
(1,582 posts)This kind of crap reporting is why many people have little confidence in the science of medicine.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)DebJ
(7,699 posts)and it did so while my stomach had 2 liters of compressed gas in it from the soda.
Sorry if it was unclear.... but it reads "artifical sweetener....paralyzed my stomach...with...2 liters of compressed gas in it".
My stomach had the gas in it at the time the artificial sweetener paralyzed my stomach.
progressoid
(49,945 posts)http://now.uiowa.edu/2014/03/ui-study-finds-diet-drinks-associated-heart-trouble-older-women
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)"Not even close. Because buried at the bottom of the article is what is really going on: The women who drank more diet soda were less healthy to begin with. They were more likely to be overweight, to smoke, and to have high blood pressure than the other group."
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Tastes awful, is unnatural. Drink water.
littlemissmartypants
(22,559 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,559 posts)Silent3
(15,147 posts)That doesn't seem to be stopping you, however.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I use sucralose now.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Good ol' sugar is better for you than any artificial sweetener.
http://www.prevention.com/food/healthy-eating-tips/health-risks-sucralose
Not to mention, most artificial sweeteners make you gain weight because they are fooling your body and end up making you hungry.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I gain weight when using sugar because my caloric intake is higher. That's how it works.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:28 PM - Edit history (1)
You're being ridiculously silly/stupid.
http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-chlorine-and-chloride
And no, that's not how it works. lol.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)you could ever possibly cut and paste. I know the difference.
And I know that use of a toxic chemical in the process of manufacturing something does not automatically make that something, the end product of chemical reactions, toxic in itself.
Go take a university level inorganic chem class and when you have passed it with better than a C, get back to me.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)With cardiac problems? Do they exercise? What is their diet like. How do these compare to the women without heart problems? There are many factors that contribute to cardio-vascular disease. Aspartame may not be good but I seriously doubt it's the sole cause of C-V problems in these women.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)Helpful hint: if your website posts articles by Joseph Mercola without ripping them apart, you have no credibility.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)chronic auto immune disease.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)Doesn't Mercola believe everything is a "chronic auto immune disease"?
longship
(40,416 posts)He is an unethical kook who sells rubbish as medicine.
http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html
http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/four-biggest-quacks-plaguing-america-their-bad-claims-about-science
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/for-shame-dr-oz/
And there's plenty more from where these come from. Just Google "Joseph Mercola" and you'll see.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Mercola is being vilified for his stance against gmos, particularly by Monsatan.
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/monsantos-minions-attack-cas-right-to-know-about-gloss
Western medicine CANNOT deal with chronic auto-immune diseases effectively at all, which are mainly caused by all the toxins in our environment, food which has been sterilized and devoid of nutritional content.
I almost died, wholistic medicine saved my life. I'm sticking to it.
longship
(40,416 posts)Talk about a non sequitur.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Mercola doesn't peddle poison. He sells herbs, foods and supplements to promote healing and well being.
Monsatan peddles poison, which makes people sick and die.
What's so hard to understand the common sense of this?
longship
(40,416 posts)That's the only thing he promotes.
Please go to the links at my above post and see what the science says about what he promotes... And sells.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Obviously you know very little.
longship
(40,416 posts)There is no alternative to medicine, especially one labelled alternative medicine. There is only medicine, which is based on science, not some quack ideas.
It involves understanding biology, pharmacology, disease, epidemiology, statistics, plus clinical practices, among much more.
Mercola is a doctor in the same way as my grandmother was a steamship. He's an abject quack because he practices abject quackery.
Read at the links.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Nature's plants are basis of modern pharmacology. Nature's medicine is far better than any man-made pill. Man has a lot of learning to do before he can replicate nature's wonderous healing powers.
You should read up on that.
Over and out.
longship
(40,416 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Nighty night longship
longship
(40,416 posts)As long as the peddlers of woo make no disease claims, they can sell their woo nostrums making structure/function claims. E.G., "supports the immune system." Of course, this is utterly meaningless marketing terminology. But the law that deregulated this quackery, DSHEA, which was promoted by Tom Harkin and signed into law by Bill Clinton, has done nothing but cut the quacks loose to sell quackery.
No regulations means bad things, especially when it comes to something as important as medicine.
Sleep well, but if you catch something horrible, or develop something like cancer, I would sincerely hope that you would not trust somebody like Joseph Mercola, or the many other quacks who have crept out of dark corners since DSHEA.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)He trades on people's fears and lack of knowledge to sell his junk books. Their only value is in recycling the paper, either by sending it to the pulp mill or wiping one's ass with it.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)I stated fact. His product is sold on fear and doubt. He does for medicine what Rumsfeld, Chenney, Perle, etc. did for war.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Obviously you don't shop for herbs and wholistic products.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Because I don't buy expensive woo that has no proven value.
And saying that he is the same as other snake oil salespeople is hardly a ringing endorsement.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Have a nice night. Maybe some expensive herb tea that won't do a thing for you.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Remember to stir the tea clockwise as everyone knows counter clockwise will cause constipation and acne.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Got off it a few years ago, but still sneak a diet coke once in a while. It has crack in it, or something.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)"Not even close. Because buried at the bottom of the article is what is really going on: The women who drank more diet soda were less healthy to begin with. They were more likely to be overweight, to smoke, and to have high blood pressure than the other group."
From: http://www.science20.com/pfired_but_still_kicking/suicide_by_soda_bullsweet-133011
TBF
(32,004 posts)so I stopped buying anything with aspartame. I've never had that result from any other sweetener, although I do have sensitivity to aspirin as well and occasional other things.
Silent3
(15,147 posts)Without further study and/or better controls on the same study, there's no way to know how much of the observed effect is mere correlation -- that is, many of these people, perhaps even most, could be drinking diet drinks because they start out already overweight, out of shape, and at higher risk for cardiovascular disease.
CountAllVotes
(20,866 posts)Not sure if this is still the case but about 20 years ago the WW diet was filled with aspartame.
I was on this diet myself at the time and was consuming aspartame in fairly large amounts.
Not long after I began this diet, I began to fall down and was exhausted. Not long after that, I began suffering from severe migraine headaches and was having bizarre visual problems.
It was not long after this that I began to lose my eyesight and was seeing things in different colors in each eye which eventually led to complete blindness in one eye.
I was DX'd with MS (multiple sclerosis) not long after this.
Needless to say, I quit the Weight Watchers diet and I've read in many sources that there is a link between MS and aspartame consumption.
http://www.sweetpoison.com/multiple-sclerosis.html
>>Scientists do know some certain things about Multiple Sclerosis. Some new information that came out within the last few months shows there is more going on with Multiple Sclerosis than meets the clinical eye. When patients are clinically stable, they may still have the disease working in their body, but just not being manifested. With the development of MRIs, Multiple Sclerosis appears to have more active MRI lesions than it appears to have clinical exacerbation. This correlates with the research results of lesions within the brain mass of laboratory mice fed aspartame.
The best advice for Multiple Sclerosis worries, stay away from aspartame at all cost.
Not that I am living proof of alleged connection but, it sure has had me wondering was going on at that time.
Could aspartame be the evil poison that set the MS off? I tend to think so and I never consume it nowadays.
Being I have been so ill, I no longer need to do a Weight Watchers diet being I lost about 50 lbs. since all of this happened to me. Being sick will cause one to lose weight quickly -- that and being flat broke!
Aspartame should be listed as being the poison that it is and no one should consume it IMO.
brewens
(13,538 posts)Now after coffee in the morning, it's mostly water and juice. I dink some Gatorade at home. I use the powdered stuff and mix it a little over 50% of what the directions call for. I think it tastes just as good and the extra water is probably better for me. Plain water all the time is boring. I may go to tea though, I always liked it. My mom made it by the gallon but I never started doing that on my own. I know I sure feel better. The thought of any diet soda now does not even appeal to me.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Your mileage may vary.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)"Not even close. Because buried at the bottom of the article is what is really going on: The women who drank more diet soda were less healthy to begin with. They were more likely to be overweight, to smoke, and to have high blood pressure than the other group."
All of this was controlled for.
"The association persisted even after researchers adjusted the data to account for demographic characteristics and other cardiovascular risk factors, including body mass index, smoking, hormone therapy use, physical activity, energy intake, salt intake, diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol, and sugar-sweetened beverage intake."
That's not what the actual paper says. Nice try. That's why pushing bad sources is not ok.