Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 11:06 PM Jan 2012

The Evolved Self-Management System

NICHOLAS HUMPHREY: I was asked to write an essay recently for "Current Biology" on the evolution of human health. It's not really my subject, I should say, but it certainly got me thinking. One of the more provocative thoughts I had is about the role of medicine. If human health has changed for the better in the late stages of evolution, this has surely had a lot to do with the possibility of consulting doctors, and the use of drugs. But the surprising thing is that, until less than 100 years ago, there was hardly anything a doctor could do that would be effective in any physiological medicinal way—and still the doctor's ministrations often "worked". That's to say, under the influence of what we would today call placebo medicine people came to feel less pain, to experience less fever, their inflammations receded, and so on.

Now, when people are cured by placebo medicine, they are in reality curing themselves. But why should this have become an available option late in human evolution, when it wasn't in the past.

I realized it must be the result of a trick that has been played by human culture. The trick isto persuade sick people that they have a "license" to get better, because they'rein the hands of supposed specialists who know what's best for them and can offer practical help and reinforcements. And the reason this works is that it reassures people—subconsciously —that the costs of self-cure will be affordable and that it's safe to let down their guard. So health has improved because of a cultural subterfuge. It's been a pretty remarkable development.

I'm now thinking about a larger issue still. If placebo medicine can induce people to release hidden healing resources, are there other ways in which the cultural environment can "give permission" to people to come out of their shells and to do things they wouldn't have done in the past? Can cultural signals encourage people to reveal sides of their personality or faculties that they wouldn't have dared to reveal in the past? Or for that matter can culture block them? There's good reason to think this is in fact our history.

http://edge.org/conversation/the-evolved-self-management-system

Long, mostly for the stuff on placebos, which seems new.

4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Evolved Self-Management System (Original Post) bemildred Jan 2012 OP
They actually did have medicines that worked, not as fast as today but many let the patient recover. kickysnana Jan 2012 #1
I don't see it as justifying anything, it's informed speculation. bemildred Jan 2012 #2
Beautiful article. Really fascinating. Overseas Jan 2012 #3
Well, it's speculative. bemildred Jan 2012 #4

kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
1. They actually did have medicines that worked, not as fast as today but many let the patient recover.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:52 AM
Jan 2012

This is an opinion justifying placebos. Where is this coming from? It is insane from a medical, scientific or moral viewpoint.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. I don't see it as justifying anything, it's informed speculation.
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jan 2012

There is no question that there is a placebo effect, he offers an explanation, and some thoughts on how it might be used. It didn't appear to me that he had anything to sell, or that he was criticising modern medicine.

It is what it is, first time I've seen the site, and I have not spent any time there.

It's definitely thinking outside the box.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
3. Beautiful article. Really fascinating.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jan 2012

I went on to the video of The Placebo Effect -- Cracking the Code.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Well, it's speculative.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jan 2012

But it makes sense, and some parts appear testable, and I have seen nothing that comes close as an explanation for the placebo effect, that is which rises above the level of hand-waving.

And a good read too.

Edit: Either way, it's no silver bullet, it's more like an avenue to find ways to directly manage your body's defenses, and it could lead to all sort of things down the road.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Health»The Evolved Self-Manageme...