Doctors Say Changes In Wheat Do Not Explain Rise Of Celiac Disease

[HuckleB]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/09/26/226510988/doctors-say-changes-in-wheat-do-not-explain-rise-of-celiac-disease?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=nprfacebook&utm_source=npr&utm_medium=facebook

Interesting stuff, IMO.

[Mosby]

1. I think people are eating to many carbs

The best diet Imo is a combination of the paleo diet and the med. Diet.

I have no idea why celiac disease is increasing though, allergies sounds pretty plausible.

[Warpy]

2. Tell it to Asia

Most of the diet over there is grain based and has been for thousands of years.

[Mosby]

7. But they eat "whole" carbs not refined carbs

check out these school lunches from around the world:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/what-school-lunches-look-like-in-20-countries-arou

Americans eat far too much refined carbs like pasta and bread.


The food pyramid is out, waaay to many carbs:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/02/food-pyramid-usda_n_870375.html

[Warpy]

8. Wrong again. They eat polished rice

mostly because they can't afford the fuel needed to cook whole grain rice and partly because whole grain rice goes rancid.

Yes, they eat more veggies. That's because meat and carbs are subsidized here while fruits and vegetables are not. Too many people out there can't afford them and since this trend has gone on for a couple of generations, I don't see it ending.

Carbs aren't the problem, as Asia has shown us over and over again. The lack of fresh fruits and vegetables is the problem.

The low carb diets are just a passing fad, expensive and not particularly healthy and like any of the other deficiency diets, doomed to failure.

[Mosby]

11. I'm not suggesting that people should not eat carbs

But Americans eat far too much refined carbs like pasta and bread.

Lots of vegis, whole grains and quality proteins and fats is the way to go.

There is nothing wrong with white rice, it's a hell of a lot better than globs of pasta, you just need to get the fiber from somewhere else.

The truly "low carb" diets like Atkins are, hopefully, a passing fad. They can be dangerous.

[kestrel91316]

3. I suspect "celiac disease" is the new "chronic fatigue".

Lots of people self-diagnosing, and having NO clue WTF they are talking about.

Silly nonsense, like the folks that claim that allergy to food items causes "mucus" (somewhere, but they never specify where).

[Skittles]

4. I think it's amazing the fads people come up with

to avoid eating everything-in-moderation and exercising

[cbayer]

6. Agree. I, for one, would love to invent a disease that just about everyone has.

Actual celiac disease is pretty uncommon, as I am sure you know, but "gluten intolerance" has spread like a wild fire.

One of the guys on the show did report data that confirms an increase in actual celiac disease and proposed the hypothesis that our environments have become too clean. He noted an increase in autoimmune diseases across the board and thinks there is a tie-in with less exposure to things that our immune system actually needs to deal with.

Anyway, good show. Recommended.

[kestrel91316]

9. Oh, a too clean environment most certainly has led to increased autoimmune disease.

An idle immune system is the devil's plaything.

But I still think most people who think they are "gluten intolerant" are hypochondriacs or have bad dietary habits or suffer occasional food poisoning because their grasp of kitchen hygiene is poor.

[cbayer]

13. I think a lot of these diseases are stress/anxiety induced

and people will do anything to try and feel better......

except see the correct professional who can adequately diagnose and treat their underlying psychiatric conditions.

The stigma, the lack of parity and the general attitude towards psychiatric problems remain major problems.

There's no pink ribbons or marches for people with these disorders.

[Warpy]

10. Imagine my utter shock when the rash and wheezing

I'd been trying to track down for a couple of years turned out to be due to wheat. It was literally the last thing on a very long list because I know how rare wheat allergy is.

I'm grateful to the no wheat faddists out there, the products available have multiplied in the cases of even the supermarket.

Eventually, I'll get to an allergist and get tested. Being without health insurance for nearly three decades has made me very reluctant to get anything confirmed.

In the meantime, the wheezing is just bad enough for me to stay away from wheat, something I hate because I loved to bake.

As for the sterile environments making people more disease prone, we've seen that very clearly in children with antiseptic mothers. Their immune systems are very different from the third world children who were brought up in filth and exposed to every bug out there.

Apparently toddlers are supposed to pick nasty things off the ground and shove them into their mouths. That develops their immune systems.

[cbayer]

12. I'm glad you found some relief.

I'm in the same boat as you regarding health insurance. I have developed some chronic and worsening symptoms that I have not been able to diagnose or address and look forward to seeing a doctor after Jan. 1.

That is if I can find one. The market is going to be flooded with people like you and me.

The data is pretty good in support of letting kids cram disgusting things in their mouths, as well as allowing them access to animals.

If you haven't seen the documentary "Babies", it's a fascinating look at how different culture raise their children.

[cbayer]

5. I heard this on the radio yesterday and recommend it.

While there is a rise in the rates of real celiac disease, the whole "gluten free" movement is highly questionable, imo.

At any rate, it's generating a massive amount of income for a lot of people.

[hedgehog]

14. I live in a very old, very dusty house - c.1880

We had and have cats, dogs and chickens. My husband, I and all my kids have some degree of autoimmune problems. I don't buy the too clean hypothesis; I think it's the chemicals we've been using to keep our houses clean!