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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 07:50 PM Sep 2013

So now what?...

I'm no longer quite in the panicky crisis I was in a few days ago. But now that the breakdown itself has blown over I feel like my life is over. Don't worry I'm not quite suicidal. But I don't feel there is any future for me and any thoughts of trying to put together a plan or think about my situation gets the anxiety going again. I'm going to talk to my psychiatrist in 1/2 a week or so and I'm trying to get some ativan or something to tie me over till then. I've been here before but the more times you touch bottom the farther away and the less accessible the surface seems. Also the less hope you have, I don't even feel like trying anymore I've failed so many times. Anyway maybe I should concentrate on just getting back to where I was this summer even if I didn't have a job or school then, things were at least going well emotionally and physically.

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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,523 posts)
1. I firmly believe that you need 2 things:
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 07:59 PM
Sep 2013

A different college, one that allows you to take as few classes as you feel up to taking.

And a new therapist, one that you can see daily for awhile.

And maybe new medications.

Obviously, what you've been doing is not working.

And it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get where you want to be.

YOUR LIFE IS NOT OVER.

You are worth it!

elleng

(130,732 posts)
3. RIGHT, CalPeg.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 08:17 PM
Sep 2013

As I suggested before, Locut0s should maybe get another therapist and, I think, see him/her more often than is currently the case, much more often, like 5x/week.

Definitely worth it!

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
6. Thank you Peggy...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:37 PM
Sep 2013

In the really short term I think I need to relax and regroup. Thinking too much about what my options are right now just leads me to panic again. I have some Ativan here now that I'm going to take over the next few days to help with the short term stuff. Longer term I'll speak with my psychiatrist about med changes. I know I need to get back to my exercises and weight loss as that was very good for me.

I'm not sure how to go about getting a therapist I can see on a daily basis. Hopefully a good one too, as they vary in quality so much, like any profession. Cost also worries me in this regard.

Thanks for reminding me it doesn't matter how long it takes. I rarely feel that. I occasionally speak to another friend of mine who has his own emotional issues, actually in many respects he's a lot worse than me. And he thinks time is everything, that you're a total failure unless you achieve X by age Y. I tell him like you are telling me that this is not the case, that life affords people the ability to develop at their own rate and truthfully fuck the status quo that he continually measures himself against. Thing is I do much the same without realizing it a lot of the time. I have difficulty actually feeling the truth of the fact that it doesn't matter, deep down I think I feel that it really does very much. Deep down I compare myself to others all the time and the comparison is almost never flattering on my end of the scale. I have to stop doing this.

Thanks, I know my life is not over. Well factually I know this. There are lots of people out there in their 40s and 50s who only begin to discover themselves. But I don't FEEL this, is the problem. Like so much else, I know all the facts but I can't tap into the truth of things emotionally. Ironically I think I'd make a good psychiatrist as I can analyse myself and others fairly well and see the factual truth of the matter but, again ironically, when it comes time to act my emotions don't match my logic. It's like knowing the proof of a mathematical formula, one that can't be refuted, and being able to show someone all the steps in the proof, but still somehow feeling great uncertainty about it emotionally.

Again thanks for listening to all this rambling, just venting and having people listen is helpful at times.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
2. Rest, regroup, definitely get back to your summer self.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Sep 2013

You made amazing progress over the summer. It was good physically and emotionally for you. I think you should remember how well you did.

Don't worry about the big picture, just concentrate on day to day for now.

Feel free to pm me any time if you think I could help.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
7. Thanks Denninmi...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

Yes I think getting back to the summer routine and level of happiness and assuredness will be my first order of business. That may take some time as every time I've had one of these breakdowns in the past it's been followed by a month or two of darkness. Once I get there maybe I'll reaccess things then. I don't look at my future right now without panic and despair. I know that's the temporal proximity to the crisis I just had and not the truth but I can't see things any other way at this particular moment. I'll talk things over with my psychiatrist when I see him in a few days. Till then I'll just try to rest. I have some Ativan as well for the more stressful moments. Thanks for the support!

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
4. I am glad that you are getting out of the panic zone. Some of us just
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 08:20 PM
Sep 2013

aren't meant to do certain things, I guess. I don't have a license to drive.. too scared. Don't have a job... always screw those up and the stress makes me sick anyway.

I am lucky that my husband lets me stay home so I can be in a mostly stress-free environment. Well, not counting the fact that we are raising teenagers right now. But I still feel guilty and ashamed that I don't drive or work. I think, though, this is something I need to lay at the feet of society for the most part. (Except I do feel bummed about putting people out when I need rides to places. )

May you find that place you were in this summer as quickly as possible!

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
8. I think the trick will be trying to find a way to work with this...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:49 PM
Sep 2013

I don't think I'm every going to be able to get rid of the anxiety entirely, it's too fundamental a part of my personality at this point. But if I can find some way of working WITH it, I may still be able to do these things in some fashion. There are many a rather successful software developer who work from home for example. You don't need to work in a stressful cubicle environment which I know realize I don't think I can do. Course that route takes luck and some networking but maybe I don't want to think of that right now. Don't feel guilty of your position for even a second! I know 1000% why you do, I feel IMMENSE guilt over the failures and set backs I have suffered over the past 10+ years. But feeling this way, although it's understandable and I can relate, does nothing but make us feel worse. It contributes nothing to the situation and has no positive effect whatsoever. Many many people out there, those who supposedly CAN hack it in life have a SHIT load more to be guilty about than we do and they feel nothing at all and no one expects them to. Instead we have little to feel guilty about in the bigger picture yet we destroy ourselves over it. I'm sure we will both continue to feel guilty but try to keep these things in mind, and so will I And BTW raising teenagers is a damn stressful job, don't put yourself down on that account!

Thanks for the reply, I'm going to try and relax over the next week or so and I'll talk with my psychiatrist and see where things go from there.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
11. Thank you! *hugs* It's nice to be able to talk with someone who
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 05:41 PM
Sep 2013

relates to the situation. My husband is an old school bootstrap conservative, so he doesn't really get where I am coming from or why it's so hard for me to do some things. Unfortunately my younger son seems to be following in my footsteps as far as having a mood disorder, ADHD, and social and academic anxiety. It's so hard to watch him go through it, but I know that if he is truly following my pattern he should sort himself out a bit by around 20, which is when I pulled myself together at least a little.

I hope things get better soon!

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
5. Whenever I felt down, I always remembered how great it felt during the good times. And
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 08:52 PM
Sep 2013

knew that those times would come again. I'm glad you have not forgotten how it felt last spring. You were doing great. That trick is to find the right balance of medication/doctor/attitude.

Everybody and I mean everybody goes through a hard time in life at some point. So you are not alone. So take the long view.... I mean hard times in your twenties over the course of a life that is 95 years long is nothing. Just a blip. It seems like forever but it just seems that way because you are so young. And once you have been through some bad times...it teaches you to appreciate all in your life. You will be fine in no time. You'll get the right balance.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
9. Thanks applegrove...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:53 PM
Sep 2013

As I was telling Peggy above I know the truth of everything you say but I don't feel it emotionally. I wish to god that I did. I'm the living embodiment of "do as I say, not as I do". Actually I'm 31 now but the truth of what you say still holds I know. Many people don't really get going or discover "calling" so to speak until their 40s or 50s or even later, some never do, and I know for a fact that many of them are very happy. If only I could transfer this knowledge into something I felt with my heart/gut instead of just factual knowledge. Thanks again for the support. I hope that in time I will indeed find the right balance.

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
10. My life kept getting derailed. Even when I figured out why I seemed not
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:08 PM
Sep 2013

to be able to stop it in a safe way. But in the last few years I do own my life. And it feels wonderful. And I'm around wonderful people. And I feel lucky every day. And I appreciate everything about myself that I used to hate. Sure there is bad (I don't communicate well) but it comes with the good stuff within me and gives me my character. You'll get there. Soon I think. They have great meds these days. I'm sure of it. And you are still young. I remember turning 25 and thinking I was so old. Now I feel I am young in my late 40s. But it sure is great to have been through hell and found a way out. I'm happy most of the time. You will be too.

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