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fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:03 PM Jan 2012

i just got a dutch oven and want to try my hand at bread

i've got mark bittman's recipe and it looks simple enough, but i'm not a baker. any tips?

i don't see anything about greasing or oiling the dutch oven. is it going to stick if i don't? the pot is enameled. should i use ap or bread flour? should i sift the flour? what works best to mix the dough? how long after taking it out of the over should i pull it out of the pot?

my husband is particularly interested in this, so i want it to turn out well. i'm going to start the dough tuesday night and have it with chicken stew for dinner wednesday. i'm pretty excited about this

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i just got a dutch oven and want to try my hand at bread (Original Post) fizzgig Jan 2012 OP
Your first bread should be Warpy Jan 2012 #1
goof proof sounds good fizzgig Jan 2012 #2
It's so easy and sooooo good. cbayer Jan 2012 #3
thank you fizzgig Jan 2012 #4
This recipe is the best thing to start with. I've been making it about once a week cbayer Jan 2012 #5
forgot to tell you the good news maddezmom Jan 2012 #10
Congratulations to you!!! cbayer Jan 2012 #12
We did extensive tests a while back and there are some great threads in the archives Lucinda Jan 2012 #6
What kind of a "Dutch Oven" are you using? oneshooter Jan 2012 #7
lodge fizzgig Jan 2012 #8
That's basically what I have. You may have to remove the little handle on the top. cbayer Jan 2012 #13
it's got a metal knob fizzgig Jan 2012 #15
I have one, that would properly be called a stewpot oneshooter Jan 2012 #14
I have that in red, and replaced the knob with the metal Le Creuset one.... msanthrope Jan 2012 #18
i made beef stew in it last night fizzgig Jan 2012 #19
These wouldn't be used with charcoal...the dutch oven would be put in a regular oven. Lars39 Jan 2012 #9
One of the best rated Dutch ovens that is very affordable Ilsa Jan 2012 #20
A couple of thoughts to add . . . . Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #11
ooooh, i like cook's illustrated fizzgig Jan 2012 #16
Well, if you are really interested in learning to make bread OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2012 #17
i'm going to ask my sister if i can borrow her copy fizzgig Jan 2012 #27
I keep wanting to make a joke when I read the title Inchworm Jan 2012 #21
LMAO. n/t Aerows Jan 2012 #23
oh, you fizzgig Jan 2012 #28
I WISH I knew how to make bread Aerows Jan 2012 #22
if I can make bread anyone can maddezmom Jan 2012 #24
Dumb question Aerows Jan 2012 #25
I used the rapid rise maddezmom Jan 2012 #26
thanks for mentioning the lid fizzgig Jan 2012 #29

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. Your first bread should be
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:16 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/dining/081mrex.html It is goof proof as long as you use all purpose or bread flour (instead of expensive cake flour) and measure everything accurately and have yeast that's still alive.

I guarantee it will come out better than any bread you've ever tasted.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
2. goof proof sounds good
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jan 2012

that's the recipe i've got, but i'm a bit intimidated despite the simplicity. just a new realm for me

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. It's so easy and sooooo good.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:41 PM
Jan 2012

No grease in the dutch oven, but make sure that you heat the dutch oven in the stove while it is preheating. The dough should be pretty thick.

White flour, no sifting, your hands, immediately and put it on a rack.

And as bad as you want to, don't cut it while hot. It's still got some cooking to do.

Best stuff ever!!

Good luck. The first one may not be perfect, but you will get there.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
4. thank you
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jan 2012

i think leaving it alone is going to be the hardest part of it.

learning to bake bread has been a goal of mine, i'm excited to get started.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. This recipe is the best thing to start with. I've been making it about once a week
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jan 2012

for the past year or so, and it just gets better and better.

It is particularly good in cheese fondue, one of my most favorite foods ever. It has just the right mixture of really crunchy crust and soft insides.

You can freeze some of it, but if you want to eat it the next day, I find wrapping it in a cloth is the best way to keep it fresh for a day (maybe two). Once it begins to go stale, it makes great toast.

And your house will smell wonderful!

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
10. forgot to tell you the good news
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:18 AM
Jan 2012

I had a success baking the bread. However, didn't get to take a pic because Tommy stole it while it was cooling. Then Copper swiped it from him. They both seemed to enjoy it tho. Going to do start another one today and bake it tomorrow.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. Congratulations to you!!!
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:43 AM
Jan 2012

I knew you could do it. Now you just have to find a cooling place that the kids and critters can't get to.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
6. We did extensive tests a while back and there are some great threads in the archives
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:11 PM
Jan 2012

But I agree that the recipe you have is a great one to start with.

Once you have done that one, we can find others you might want to try based upon what you did and did not like with this one.

Have fun!
Warning...it's sooo easy to do and sooo addictive!

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
7. What kind of a "Dutch Oven" are you using?
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

I do demos of Chuck Wagon cooking and have never seen a enameled Dutch. I have a stew pot that is enamel over cast iron, but I would not do bread in it.
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Oneshooter

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
13. That's basically what I have. You may have to remove the little handle on the top.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jan 2012

They sell some metal ones, but I just take mine out when using for bread. It's plastic and I am afraid it might melt.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
14. I have one, that would properly be called a stewpot
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jan 2012

No matter what Lodge says. A true "Dutch Oven" is used in conjuction with a open fire or charcoal. It has 3 legs and a flange on the lid. This flange is to hold the coals from the fire and the legs allows the bottom to sit above the coals that you remove from the fire. That way it cooks from both top and bottom.

I cook breads and cobblers in mine, and stews and soups in flat bottom, round top stew pots.
Sorry for the rant but the proper name of a tool is important to the convesation.

Oneshooter

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. One of the best rated Dutch ovens that is very affordable
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jan 2012

Is by Tramontina. Le Cruizet is supposed the be the best, but they are usually $200-300 for a 6+quart size. The Tramontina is $50, and got it's high ranking by America's Test Kitchens.

Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
11. A couple of thoughts to add . . . .
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jan 2012

. . . . apart from a warm "Good Luck!"

The dough could be really, really sticky. So sticky you won't think you can handle it.

Knead it as little as possible. No more than five or six turns where that recipe says to shape it.

Cooks Illustrated has a variation on this recipe that I think is even better (if that's possible). It was discussed in our old forum back on DU2, but I can't seem to find it. It was back in the 2008-9 time frame, I think. They use beer and parchment paper.

That's about it.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
16. ooooh, i like cook's illustrated
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jan 2012

i just bookmarked the recipe, i'm going to do some hunting in the archive tonight. thanks

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
17. Well, if you are really interested in learning to make bread
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jan 2012

May I suggest that you get yourself a copy of "The Bread Bakers Apprentice" by Peter Reinhart. This book is, in some folks minds, singlehandedly responsible for the "Artisan" bread making craze that has developed in the last several years. There are several websites started by devotees, groups who go through the book recipie by recipie and in my opinion, this book has done as much for the home breadmaker as the movie Julie and Julia did for JC booksales. At some point I'm going to have to break down and buy a new copy as the one I have now is literally falling apart from use. Also, there is a website called "The fresh loaf" that has a ton of useful info for bread makers from begining to professional. Actually, that website was where I learned about the book. Good luck. Your life is about to change.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. I WISH I knew how to make bread
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jan 2012

I've been thinking about it, but I'm hardly the best thing when it comes to pastries. I don't know what the heck a dutch oven even is.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
24. if I can make bread anyone can
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

here is a link to recipe but you have to follow all the instructions because the first 2x i did it, I forgot the lid when heating the dutch oven.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/dining/081mrex.html

Here is to the one I have but there are a ton out there and prices range quite a bit.

http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-Color-6-Quart-Dutch-Island/dp/B000N501BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326853810&sr=8-1

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. Dumb question
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jan 2012

When they say "instant yeast" what do they mean? I know about everything else, and I think they mean stuff like off the shelf Fleischmenn's Yeast, but I am unsure.

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