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Popeye's chicken sandwich recipe (Original Post) trof Nov 2019 OP
It's just not right without modified starches sir pball Nov 2019 #1
Kenji Lopez-Alt's recipe in The Food Lab works great IMO tishaLA Nov 2019 #2
Oh, I've tried that sir pball Nov 2019 #3
I'll try the rice flour/cornstarch trof Nov 2019 #5
I love Popeye's Chicken. dware Nov 2019 #4

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
1. It's just not right without modified starches
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:29 PM
Nov 2019

Wife and I are also both chefs, and I have a chem degree - we've tried tons of ways to make commercial (Popeyes/KFC/Tyson) fried chicken and just can't do it.

You need the engineered stuff like Pure-Cote, Ultra-Crisp, or Crisp Coat. Even 50-50 rice flour and cornstarch, while the best breading we've found yet, doesn't get loosely craggy yet super crunchy like the commercial stuff. Thankfully, it's all available online, we just haven't the time to experiment with it.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
2. Kenji Lopez-Alt's recipe in The Food Lab works great IMO
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:57 PM
Nov 2019

it's kinda involved, but...

Extra-Crunchy Southern Fried Chicken
From The Food Lab by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt

Ingredients
2 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons freshly ground black pepper
2 teaspoons garlic powder
2 teaspoons dried oregano
1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 cup buttermilk
1 large egg
Kosher salt
1 whole chicken, about 4 pounds, cut into 10 pieces (or 3 1/2 lbs. bone-in, skin-on breasts, legs, drumsticks, and wings)
1 1⁄2 cups all-purpose flour
1⁄2 cup cornstarch
1 teaspoon baking powder
4 cups vegetable shortening or peanut oil

Method
1. Combine the paprika, black pepper, garlic powder, oregano, and cayenne in a small bowl and mix thoroughly with a fork.

2. Whisk the buttermilk, egg, 1 tablespoon salt, and 2 tablespoons of the spice mixture in a large bowl. Add the chicken pieces and toss and turn to coat. Transfer the contents of the bowl to a gallon-sized, zipper-lock freezer bag and refrigerate for at least four hours and as long as overnight, flipping the bag occasionally to redistribute the contents and coat the chicken evenly.

3. Whisk together the flour, cornstarch, baking powder, 2 teaspoons salt, and the remaining spice mixture in a large bowl. Add 3 tablespoons of the marinade from the zipper-lock bag and work it into the flour with your fingertips. Remove one piece of chicken from the bag, allowing excess buttermilk to drip off, drop the chicken into the flour mixture, and toss to coat. Continue adding chicken pieces to the flour mixture, one at a time, until they are all in the bowl. Toss the chicken until every piece is thoroughly coated, pressing with your hands to get the flour to adhere in a thick layer.

4. Adjust an oven rack to the middle position and preheat the oven to 350°F. Heat the shortening or oil to 425°F in a 12-inch straight-sided cast-iron chicken fryer, or a large wok, over medium-high heat. Adjust the heat as necessary to maintain the temperature, being careful not to let the fat get any hotter.

5. One piece at a time, transfer the coated chicken to a fine-mesh strainer and shake to remove excess flour. Transfer to a wire rack set on a rimmed baking sheet. Once all the chicken pieces are coated, place skin side down in the pan. The temperature should drop to 300°F; adjust the heat to maintain the temperature at 300°F for the duration of the cooking. Fry the chicken until it’s a deep golden brown on the first side, about 6 minutes; do not move the chicken or start checking for doneness until it has fried for at least 3 minutes, or you may knock off the coating. Carefully flip the chicken pieces with tongs and cook until the second side is golden brown, about 4 minutes longer.

6. Transfer the chicken to a clean wire rack set on a rimmed baking sheet and place in the oven. Cook until an instant-read thermometer inserted into the thickest part of the breast registers 150°F and the legs register 165°F, or about 5 to 10 minutes. Remove the chicken pieces to a second rack or a paper towel-lined plate as they reach their final temperature. Season with salt and serve. (Or, for extra-crunchy fried chicken, go to step 7.)

7. Place the plate of cooked chicken in the refrigerator for at least 1 hour, and as long as overnight. When ready to serve, reheat the oil to 400°F. Add the chicken pieces and cook, flipping them once, halfway through cooking, until completely crisp, about 5 minutes. Transfer to a wire rack set on a rimmed baking sheet to drain, then serve immediately.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
3. Oh, I've tried that
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:07 PM
Nov 2019

And a 50-50 rice flour and cornstarch mix is even better, with that recipe.

It still doesn't end up like commercial chicken, it's not hugely craggy and crunchy. I have had really good results meshing my adaptation of Kenji's chicken recipe with his chicken-fried steak recipe, where he works a few spoons of buttermilk into the dry mix to get it nice and lumpy, but it still doesn't come out quite right - say what you will about modified starches, they're literally engineered to fry well.

dware

(12,335 posts)
4. I love Popeye's Chicken.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:54 AM
Nov 2019

Many truck stops across the country have a Popeye's on their property and I'll often eat dinner there.

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