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Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:07 PM Feb 2012

Good news at the vet's office today.

I have not posted about all my recent problems with my cat, Sammy, because it was just too much to deal with and I didn't want to put it all down in writing. Until now. I just adopted Sammy at the end of July. He was going on two years old. Here is a picture of my wonderful boy:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/curmudgeoness/5971968478/|" width="500" height="333" alt="Sammy at the stairs"></a>


Sammy had a gum disease called stomatitis, which is a wicked condition. It seems to be an auto-immune problem where the body attacks any and all bacteria in the mouth----and you cannot have a bacteria-free mouth. They don't know what causes it, and there is no cure for it. There are a few things that can be done to treat it, but none of those things were working for Sammy. With this disease, the gums swell, turn purple, and bleed profusely. It can migrate down into the throat and make it too painful to eat. Sammy's problems did not get to the throat before treatment. Antibiotics did nothing. Steroids did get the swelling and bleeding under control, but the gums were still nasty looking. He was also on a water additive to reduce the bacteria in the mouth.

Once we got the swelling and bleeding under control, he went in for teeth cleaning, which would have to be done often. During the cleaning, some of the bottom teeth were found to be diseased, and so all the lower molars were removed---and from what the vet said, they were in very bad shape and were probably painful, although he did not let on. He also had lost all but 3 of his incisors. When he went back for a checkup, the lower gums were healthy looking but the top gums still looked bad, even with the steroid treatment continuing, so it was determined that they would also have to be removed. That was done a few weeks ago, and he was just at the vet's office for a checkup...and everything has healed up well and there is no sign of any gum problems.

So now, I have a cat with 7 teeth in his mouth----the 3 remaining incisors and all 4 canine teeth. But he is doing well, eating without any problem, and is friskier and acts more content than ever.

I will not go into the amount of money this has cost. But it had to be done. There was no way I could ignore a situation like this. My vet really did not want to have to take the teeth, she was trying everything to prevent this extreme treatment, but after seeing how bad the teeth were, she is confident that this was the right thing to do. After seeing how well this has turned out, I am also sure we did the right thing. We are now starting to wean him off of the steroids.

Poor Sammy! He came to me defective, but not in personality. He is a beautiful, friendly kitty who already has my heart.

Thanks for listening. This has been a long row to hoe.

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Good news at the vet's office today. (Original Post) Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 OP
Bless him and you! CurtEastPoint Feb 2012 #1
Sammy was just so young for all these problems. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #2
She has no problems eating, wet or dry. CurtEastPoint Feb 2012 #5
Happ for you and Sammy hamsterjill Feb 2012 #3
Of all the cat problems I have been through, Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #6
Good for Sammy and for you. Today must have been "Good News At The Vet Day" Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #4
Well, that really is good news. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #7
What a pretty baby! Texasgal Feb 2012 #8
It hasn't been easy. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #9
I'm glad that Sammy is finally doing well... virgdem Feb 2012 #11
Well, bless you for all that you did for Abby. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #13
I think it's normal to feel that way... virgdem Feb 2012 #16
I'm so glad things are going so well! TorchTheWitch Feb 2012 #10
Yes, I can tell that he is happier. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #14
Yay for Sammy! livetohike Feb 2012 #12
Thanks, he is beautiful. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #15
Sometimes stomatitis kitties aren't really right until you get kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #17
Yes, he really appears to be much happier. Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #18

CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
1. Bless him and you!
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:13 PM
Feb 2012

I have one who's now 11 and about 3 years ago I had to have almost all hers removed. SHe has the canines (ironic) and the little tiny front uppers and lowers and she does just fine. She was in pain.

Now this sounds weird but some people swear by Willard Water. Google it.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
2. Sammy was just so young for all these problems.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:33 PM
Feb 2012

I was really upset that such a young and healthy-looking cat could have such a terrible problem.

I am sorry your kitty lost all her molars too. Does she have any problem eating? I was surprised that Sammy is not missing a beat with eating---and he is a hard food eater. Of course, cats really don't spend time chewing their food anyways.

As to Willard Water, I am skeptical. I will have to read more about it, but from what I did look at, I wonder if it is a scam. I am always skeptical.

CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
5. She has no problems eating, wet or dry.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:09 PM
Feb 2012

I think she just tastes and swallows but she's a chubber and doing well!

Yeah, I've read some good and neutral about WW. What harm, right?

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
3. Happ for you and Sammy
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:46 PM
Feb 2012

Good news for you and Sammy. Thanks for taking good care of him. I am in rescue and we have several stomatitis cats. One recently had a full mouth extraction, and although the first month was a little rough, he is going gangbusters now. Chows down on dry food by gumming it! Of course, we make sure he has wet food available, too. I was skeptical at first but in our cat's situation, the removal if the teeth made all the difference. That is not always true, but it worked for this cat. Best of luck to you and Sammy!!!!!!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
6. Of all the cat problems I have been through,
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:40 PM
Feb 2012

this was totally new to me. I did online research as soon as I heard the diagnosis, and soon found that full mouth extractions were not the end of the world, and often were the only thing that helped. This was Sammy's case too. Nothing was stopping this disease. He is doing great now, and it has only been two weeks since the upper molars were removed.

Thanks for working in rescue, it takes a lot of work and love.

Stinky The Clown

(67,786 posts)
4. Good for Sammy and for you. Today must have been "Good News At The Vet Day"
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:48 PM
Feb 2012

For the last 18 months or so we were fearing our oldest, 15+ year old Tigger, had a thyroid problem. She'd had weight loss and some unexplained bleeding, twice with a blood spot in her eye. Today she had her regular check-up. The vet declared her healthy She had said the thyroid issue was possible, but not certain and that we should do 6 month check-ups before getting out any heavy artillery. Last time, Tigger checked out fine, but that wasn't yet a pattern. Today, the vet said, established a pattern. She was always a round little cat, about 10 lbs at her peak. Now she's down to 7-10 or so. Apart from the weight loss, which she thinks is just the aging process and the cat getting closer to a normal weight for her size and stature, the vet thinks she's in great shape.

I'm glad my Little Buddy has her health and that we can look forward to more years with her.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
7. Well, that really is good news.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:46 PM
Feb 2012

Hyperthyroid cat is a dilemma. Meds for life, the meds can do damage, vicious cycle. So great that this is not the problem, and actually, that there is no problem.

Now, if I could only lose weight because of the aging process.......ahhhh, ain't happening.

Wishing lots of years of health for Tigger.

Texasgal

(17,043 posts)
8. What a pretty baby!
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 11:38 PM
Feb 2012

Dental work can be dramatic!

Thank goodness Sammy is well and has good owners such as yourself!

Big hugs and love to your baby!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
9. It hasn't been easy.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 11:47 PM
Feb 2012

I had lost two cats in less that five months, and adopted a young cat so I could relax for a while and have no health issues for a while, since I didn't think I could deal with any more problems. It wasn't meant to be. I am only grateful that I have been able to find the money to do this.

virgdem

(2,124 posts)
11. I'm glad that Sammy is finally doing well...
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 01:04 AM
Feb 2012

give your Sammy a hug for me. I can relate to your situation. I had my old cat, Sammy and decided to adopt a young cat, Abby, who showed up at my house one day (I was feeding 3 other strays at the time). I thought, at last, a cat that is young and has no problems. Yeah, right. About 3 weeks after I decided to take in Abby, she was diagnosed with Pancreatitis and Hepatic Lipidosis. It has taken a year to finally get her well and off all the medication she was on. And Abby is only 4 years old!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
13. Well, bless you for all that you did for Abby.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 05:00 PM
Feb 2012

Sometimes I think that they are sent to us because they need help, and we will give it to them.

But I will admit to a very low point where I wondered if I should just put him down (he also came to me with severe diarrhea and continually clogged anal glands, which we are sort of controlling now with prescription food for allergies). So I am not a saint. I'm just glad that I got past that feeling.

virgdem

(2,124 posts)
16. I think it's normal to feel that way...
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 08:34 PM
Feb 2012

I know that I felt overwhelmed when I first took Abby in. She wouldn't eat and hid from Sammy. I couldn't figure out what the problem was, but when I took her in for her booster shot, the Vet noticed that she was jaundiced. She was diagnosed with Pancreatitis and probably had liver problems as well. No wonder she wasn't eating - she was really sick. I didn't give up on her however, and I'm very thankful that I didn't. She is now a treasured member of the family and we are enjoying loving and treating her like a Princess.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
14. Yes, I can tell that he is happier.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 05:02 PM
Feb 2012

He did not show any outward signs of a problem, but he is so much friskier and more snuggling now. He has to be feeling great!

livetohike

(22,138 posts)
12. Yay for Sammy!
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:07 PM
Feb 2012

We had a dog who had to have half of his teeth pulled....and he lived to the age of 16 with no problems in eating, or other health issues.

Sammy is beautiful .

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
15. Thanks, he is beautiful.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 05:05 PM
Feb 2012

But the first time I saw him, he seemed to look weird to me----he has a rather long snout, the head is more triangular than a cat's head usually is. But he is a great cat, and he is not missing a beat with eating----like I would have expected anything else, he is such a chow hound.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
17. Sometimes stomatitis kitties aren't really right until you get
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:39 PM
Feb 2012

all the teeth out of there, except sometimes for the incisors. It's just hard to pull them a lot of the time (ask my poor right hand about that part after the difficult extractions I did last Thurs), so we try not to be doing it until they are loose.

They can eat their kibble just fine with no teeth, BTW.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
18. Yes, he really appears to be much happier.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:48 PM
Feb 2012

My vet tells me that some of the teeth had resorbed roots (?)---I guess you know what she's talking about. Others looked fine until they were pulled. She said that she normally sends cats who need that many extractions to a dental specialist, but since he was already in for tooth cleaning, she said it was apparent it had to be done then.

And yes, he is back to eating his kibble with no hesitation.

BTW, I appreciate your input by PM. It helps to have as much info as possible before you are hit by a decision. Thanks.

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