Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:49 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
A huge map of American English Dialects
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Odin2005 | Jan 2012 | OP |
Igel | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
Scuba | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
whathehell | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
Odin2005 | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
Spider Jerusalem | Jul 2012 | #5 |
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:43 PM
Igel (33,324 posts)
1. I like.
Of course, it's all hopelessly muddled now. I run across pin/pen merger speakers who were raised in areas supposedly and historically distinct.
And no one map can handle all the isoglosses in Kurath. Didn't Wolfram put out a similar kind of book perhaps a decade ago? |
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:33 AM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
2. Very interesting. Once on vacation spoke to a stranger for 30 seconds, and he said "you're from ...
... Wisconsin, but you were in the service, weren't you?"
I was a bit taken aback. He picked all that up from listening to me speak just a few sentences. He nailed my BIL also (raised in California but spent time in Wisconsin). |
Response to Scuba (Reply #2)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:56 AM
whathehell (27,722 posts)
3. There was a dialect coach who appeared on TV once who could do the dialects of EVERY state in the US
I thought that was amazing.
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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:32 PM
Spider Jerusalem (21,786 posts)
5. Interesting but incomplete
it doesn't make note of the three-way distinction between Mary/marry/merry that exists for some speakers (mostly mid-Atlantic), nor of the preservation of minimal pairs in which/witch and whine/wine that also exists for some speakers (mostly Southern). Nor does it note the use of intrusive R in some dialects that are otherwise rhotic (Inland South/lower Midwest, and probably mostly among older speakers); my great-grandmother, who was from Louisville, Kentucky, pronounced "Washington" "Warshington", for instance. There's also no mention of yod-dropping (where "news" is pronounced "nooz", "loot" and "lute" are homophones, etc), which is not found in all North American English dialects (with Southerners again most likely to maintain the distinction). And the Canadian border doesn't actually represent a distinct isogloss for Canadian raising; elements of "Canadian raising" are found in Minnesota/North Dakota/Great Lakes areas (although it's not consistent).
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