Robber killed in Waffle House shooting

[ileus]

http://www.aikenstandard.com/story/m1053-BC-SC-WaffleHouseShooti-01-21-0327

Lt. Tony Ivey said two men entered the restaurant early Saturday morning and at least one was carrying a handgun. A customer with a concealed weapons permit drew his gun, and fired when one of the suspects pointed the weapon at him.

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Turn 19 one day, taking a dirt nap the next...robbery isn't as profitable as it used to be.


Is it time we start giving these citizens rewards for helping make society a better place?

[rl6214]

1. I ate at a Waffle House last week in Fort Worth, first one I've ever been to

Service was great, food was good. I was carrying but no one came in to rob the place so my gun stayed safe and warm in my concealed carry fanny pack.

[rrneck]

2. Why would anyone want to shoot a Waffle House? nt

[fightthegoodfightnow]

4. That Wouldn't be Be Necessary

....if the bad guys didn't have guns to begin with.

[ileus]

5. or if there were no bad guys....to begin with.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

6. Which will we come closer to achieving?

.

[ObamaFTW2012]

8. If we have enough armed citizens, and few restrictions on where and what to carry,

we have a better chance of eventually eliminating the armed criminals.

But I'm sure that's not the reply you were fishing for.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

10. Hasn't Worked So Far

We have more legal guns 'protecting' us than any other country and yet we have more violent crime and deaths from illegal guns than any country.

So much for that theory.

[PavePusher]

12. And those rates are trending downwards, as ownership and carry increase.

It's almost impossible to determine how big the effect is on those crime rates, but my bet is it's a contributaory factor. Theory still valid.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

13. Nah.....that's because of Patriot Act

....and a little thing called the war on terrorism of which guns play a major role.

But heh, the fact remains more legal guns only means we still have the highest use of illegal guns for violent crimes.

[gejohnston]

15. drug gangs shooting each other is down

because of the PATRIOT Act?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

21. Absolutely!

There's some law against drug gangs shooting each other in the patriot act.

[Starboard Tack]

25. Do you think it's down because of concealed carry expansion?

Gang shootings are down because of improved community policing in places like LA.

[X_Digger]

22. Umm, the rate has been dropping since 1991. Logic fail. n/t

[PavePusher]

24. Can you break that down for us? 'Cause I'm not seeing it.

And how does that explain the same trend, at the same rate, before the WoT?

[TheWraith]

28. You're going to pimp how great the Patriot Act is? REALLY?

What the FUCK is that?

[gejohnston]

14. any other country?

Folks in Brazil will be glad to hear that. Actually, our murder rate is not that high world wide. All of the countries that have higher ones also have much stricter gun laws. Jamaica's UK style gun laws did not stop theirs from doubling.
While Russia has few gun deaths, their murder rate is three times ours and their suicide rate is even higher.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

[Starboard Tack]

26. Yep. When you're on the run, why not go to Brazil

And Jamaica and Russia and how about those suicides in Japan and don't forget the Swiss. None of them have anything to do with this country, it's culture, type of government or legal system, except of course, the UK, but we don't want to go there do we. All those knives and feet and head butting. Bravo USA.

[gejohnston]

27. same with the UK

and it is culture and history. The UK does have a problem with easily accessable automatic weapons (more so than here) Has the murder rate (or even the misuse of guns) in the UK dropped since their first strict gun laws?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

19. One man can change the world...

...with enough ammunition.

[X_Digger]

20. Right, there were no robberies before guns!

[AtheistCrusader]

29. Why yes, I would just stand there and get a knife in the chest, if only no bad guys had guns.

Wrong, I would demonstrate the folly of bringing a knife to a gunfight.

You can be killed by all sorts of things, like knives, and robbers use all sorts of things, like knives.

So even if EVERY bad guy in the nation had no firearms at all, I would still carry.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

7. Where did the gun used in the crime come from?

.

[ManiacJoe]

9. $10 says that will not be investigated.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

11. Agree

...and even if it is....$10 says nothing will be done about it.

[burf]

17. What's the line on this not being

Dante's first run in with the law?

[burf]

16. What was a 19 year old doing in possession of a handgun?

I guess its easier blaming the gun rather than the hoodlum.

[Euromutt]

18. If (admittedly dated) ATF statistics are anything to go by...

...it was most likely sold to a trafficker by a crooked FFL, or acquired by a straw purchaser. Those are the two major conduits for guns "diverted" into the criminal circuit.

Either is already a felony violation of federal law.

[friendly_iconoclast]

23. Those crimes should be made double super illegal.

That'll stop them for sure!

[ileus]

30. oops on mikey...no NRA link.