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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:24 PM Mar 2013

Some interesting offerings for "great guns for hog hunting"



In this issue of Petersen's Hunting, 10 firearms are noted for their hog-hunting capabilities. By way of BG, there are some 5,000,000 feral hogs roaming the States, with 40% making Texas their home. The array of guns is and has been astonishing. Texas Parks and Wildlife usually specifies "any legal means" for taking hogs, including in most areas .22 rim fires. This suggests an air of quiet desperation.

There are a few bolt-actions, a lever-action, and the rest are semi-autos, including the AR platforms, ranging in caliber up to .308. One claims to have a match-grade barrel, and another looks like a home appliance. The oft-heard question "who needs assault weapons [sic] to hunt with?" is answered, at least in part.

http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/02/12/hog-hunting-guns/
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Some interesting offerings for "great guns for hog hunting" (Original Post) Eleanors38 Mar 2013 OP
Remind me again why gun porn fetish pics are okay on DU, but naked bodies are not? villager Mar 2013 #1
It's hard for me to imagine the person who will rush upaloopa Mar 2013 #4
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #6
My guess is that somehow the love of guns is supposed to rub off upaloopa Mar 2013 #8
It just makes you realize how regimented much of the thinking is, even here on DU villager Mar 2013 #9
There are numerous web sites to educate folks on the problems with feral hog populations. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #7
I lived in the mountains or boonies so drop the he haw your self upaloopa Mar 2013 #14
Upaloopa, you don't know about the hog problem.. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #28
I have a theory. To some extent gunners upaloopa Mar 2013 #35
You won't be buying this weekend or next or anytime in the near future guardian Mar 2013 #20
I don't want one I don't give a shit if they are sold out. upaloopa Mar 2013 #21
Sigh guardian Mar 2013 #25
They are not mutually exclusive WinniSkipper Mar 2013 #26
Actually, I was leaning toward home appliance or carpet nail gun, or something. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #5
Can't we have both? holdencaufield Mar 2013 #15
Hog hunting is popular in Florida and AR style rifles are often used. ... spin Mar 2013 #2
We have them 400-600lbs DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #11
You don't want to see a wild hog running at you! ... spin Mar 2013 #12
interesting weapon, who makes it. and as far as hog hunting guns littlewolf Mar 2013 #3
I can't see hunting a 600lb hog with a .223 DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #10
Good 5.56/.223 in the upper 60's gr... Clames Mar 2013 #16
16" m97 Winchester "Trapper" in 45LC and handloads, bolt action 45/70/400 with hand loads. oneshooter Mar 2013 #24
I don't care if it's 'big'. Shit, I'd use a nuclear weapon if I could throw it far enough. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #33
I shoot left-handed. Most bullpup rifles hit me in the head with hot brass. slackmaster Mar 2013 #13
Find a Kel-tec RFB... Clames Mar 2013 #17
My right to buy one has been infringed by my state legislature. slackmaster Mar 2013 #18
They are way over-priced anyway. Clames Mar 2013 #19
FN2000. Dumps the brass out the front. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #34
300 blk out was born for this. ileus Mar 2013 #22
speaking of hog hunting gejohnston Mar 2013 #23
Hambulance! Foul. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #30
I'm assuming this is only a problem in the South. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #31
I never heard of it in the mountain west either gejohnston Mar 2013 #32
I was watching some fake best soldiers show last night. bluedigger Mar 2013 #27
I posted that pic because it was less scary & more countertop. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #29
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Remind me again why gun porn fetish pics are okay on DU, but naked bodies are not?
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:35 PM
Mar 2013

The instruments for shredding bodies -- yes! Porn away!

Actual intact naked bodies? Ooohh---bad!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. It's hard for me to imagine the person who will rush
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:43 PM
Mar 2013

out this weekend to buy that gun and go shoot some wild pigs.
I used to live were there were quite a few wild pigs. We liked to see the sows with their piglets.
I'm sure some gunner can tell me why it is important to shoot the pigs.
I mean if you got a gun don't you just got to shoot something?
What comes to mind are all the country road side signs shot to hell with buckshot. Also the times in Vietnam when some fool I spent all night with on guard duty takes out an ox pulling a popasan's cart because he didn't get to shoot anything the night before.
On edit: why do we have a gun group on this board? I mean why not just go to some gun site where everyone has the same fetish?

Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
8. My guess is that somehow the love of guns is supposed to rub off
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:53 PM
Mar 2013

on the rest of us this making more 2A propenents since supposedly these are liberal gun owners and liberals can do no wrong.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. There are numerous web sites to educate folks on the problems with feral hog populations.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:50 PM
Mar 2013

Crop destruction, tank pond destruction, dam undermining, spread of disease to other wildlife, impact on other wildlife.

Drop the "yee-HAH!" stereotypes and find out what's going on in the woods, and the problems with hog over-population.

If you wish to censor or ban "gun groups," then take it up with the administrators. That way you will have 2 groups:
1) The "activist" my-way-or-highway group; and
2) G.D.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
14. I lived in the mountains or boonies so drop the he haw your self
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:43 PM
Mar 2013

I had 20 acres in the lower Sierra Nevada Mnts 4 horses 6 dogs 2 cats. I lived with hogs bears bobcats mountain lions coyotes wolves rabbits squirrels and a whole bunch more and didn't need to shoot any of them.
You aren't special because you claim to be what ever

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
28. Upaloopa, you don't know about the hog problem..
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:29 AM
Mar 2013

But I'm not surprised, your life in the wild not withstanding. Biology & ecological protection are no longer strong suits within the halls of many righteous "progressives." But sentiment is still overly-abundant.

How are the cats?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
35. I have a theory. To some extent gunners
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:07 AM
Mar 2013

create a need for guns. Whether it is a gun to shoot pigs or to shot bad guys on the street.
Gunners are a minority. Most people do not think that they need to protect themselves from something by having a gun handy.
I am convinced that to some extend fear is the motive for owning guns. I don't know to what extent but when I see people running out to buy more guns at the mention of gun control that irrational motivation is also there when it comes to owning guns in the first place.

 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
20. You won't be buying this weekend or next or anytime in the near future
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 07:15 PM
Mar 2013

because all the guns are sold out. Walk into any gun store...the shelves are practically bare. And as long as the antigunners keep saying how they want to ban all guns, the politicians keep bringing out legislation to restrict gun ownership, and DHS keeps buying BILLIONS of rounds of ammo this the skyrocketing demand for firearms of all types will continue.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
21. I don't want one I don't give a shit if they are sold out.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 07:36 PM
Mar 2013

Why is it that if new gun laws won't work why does even the mention of gun regulation cause people to rush out and buy more guns?
Which is it?

 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
25. Sigh
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 09:36 PM
Mar 2013

derp derp

1. the new gun laws will not acheive the results of making society safer or reducing crime overall
2. new gun restrictions will likely limit what people can buy in the future, so people are rushing to get them now

See that isn't so hard. Two separate concepts. Write one down if you can't keep both in your head at the same time.

 

WinniSkipper

(363 posts)
26. They are not mutually exclusive
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 09:40 PM
Mar 2013

New gun laws "not working" means they will have no effect. Specifically an AWB ban on cosmetic issues. The all sales background checks and mag size are passable.

People are always reactionary - look how popular the 94 AWB made the AR style

spin

(17,493 posts)
2. Hog hunting is popular in Florida and AR style rifles are often used. ...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:37 PM
Mar 2013

Feral hogs are pests that do a amazing amount of damage to the environment and to farms. They are not native to our nation. They are also not sweet critters.

Wild Hog


The wild pig (Sus scrofa), also called the wild hog, wild boar or feral pig, is not a Florida native and may have been introduced by Spanish explorer Hernando DeSoto as early as 1539.

They occur in all of Florida's 67 counties within a wide variety of habitats, but prefer oak-cabbage palm hammocks, freshwater marshes and sloughs and pine flatwoods. Wild pigs can reach weights of more than 150 pounds and be 5-6 feet long. They usually travel in small family groups or alone.

Wild pigs are omnivorous (eating all kinds of foods, both plants and animals) and feed by rooting with their broad snouts. They may cause disturbance of the soil and ground cover vegetation and leave the area looking like a plowed field.

***snip***

Hunting

Wild pigs are legally defined as wildlife and are the second-most popular, large animal hunted in Florida (second only to the white-tailed deer).

On private property with landowner permission, wild pigs may be trapped and hunted year round using any legal to own rifle, shotgun, crossbow, bow or pistol. There is no size or bag limit, and you may harvest either sex. Also, no hunting license is required. A gun and light at night permit is not required to take wild hogs with a gun and light on private lands with landowner permission.
http://m.myfwc.com/hunting/by-species/wild-hog/


The World's Most Dangerous Game to Hunt

***snip***

Wild Boar (Sus scrofa)



Experienced hunters say that wild boar can be even more dangerous to hunt than a bear. Equipped with thick, razor-sharp tusks, and a razor-sharp mind (hogs are the 4th most intelligent animal in the world) a wild boar can weigh a staggering 660 lbs and exhibit extremely aggressive and unpredictable behaviour.

Hunters be warned! After wounding a boar, give the animal plenty of time before you follow it in to the bush. Otherwise, you’ll go from being the hunter to the hunted. Boars will circle a human adversary, charge rampantly and attack from behind.

A survival tip: Pick your tree ahead of time so you can climb out of harm’s way if ever you’re being chased.
http://www.huntercourse.com/blog/2011/11/the-worlds-most-dangerous-game-to-hunt/

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
11. We have them 400-600lbs
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 04:54 PM
Mar 2013

And they can run with quarterhorses in short bursts. On a steep slope, thos bastards can outrun a horse.

spin

(17,493 posts)
12. You don't want to see a wild hog running at you! ...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:00 PM
Mar 2013

I've known several hunters that ended up in a tree after leaving their rifle or shotgun on the ground.

A wise hunter carries a .357 or .44 magnum revolver just in case.

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
3. interesting weapon, who makes it. and as far as hog hunting guns
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:39 PM
Mar 2013

go .223 sounds about right, .22 mmm unless your using mags I would not
want to use it. .308 is a pretty big unless your shooting at 500+ yds.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
10. I can't see hunting a 600lb hog with a .223
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 04:50 PM
Mar 2013

We use 30-06 and .458 Weatherby, depending on where we are. 9MM for close work.

Those bastards are tough and fast.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
16. Good 5.56/.223 in the upper 60's gr...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:18 PM
Mar 2013

...and higher are just fine for hog. Tough but thin skinned and have a large vital area. I have a Marlin 336 in .30-30 with a Lucid HD7 stuck on a XS rail for it though.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
33. I don't care if it's 'big'. Shit, I'd use a nuclear weapon if I could throw it far enough.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:56 AM
Mar 2013

Fuck hogs.

I wouldn't bring anything smaller than a .308.
I would consider larger if not for the backstop issues.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
17. Find a Kel-tec RFB...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:20 PM
Mar 2013

...if you can afford it... Steyr AUG's and the MSAR clones are ambidextrous and can be setup to eject brass to either side.

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
19. They are way over-priced anyway.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:32 PM
Mar 2013

Even if you were legally allowed it would hardly be worth the expense. I found a Gen 1 MSAR at a local shop and they were asking $2900, more than 3 times the original price and that was before the current buying run.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
31. I'm assuming this is only a problem in the South.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:02 AM
Mar 2013

or maybe it's the East.

I grew up in Iowa and never heard of wild hogs terrorizing crops. And I definitely don't hear of that in the mountain West.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
32. I never heard of it in the mountain west either
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:06 AM
Mar 2013

We do have feral horses, which is probably the only protected invasive species. I'm cool with that, I loved watching them when I was a kid and check out the herds when I go home.

AFAIK, it seems to be a southern thing, maybe Hawaii and California too. Right now Florida has a campaign to eradicate the state of invasive flora and fauna, including hogs and coyotes.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
27. I was watching some fake best soldiers show last night.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 10:31 PM
Mar 2013

Two person team competition. The woman was using a bullpup that jammed on the first shot and she couldn't clear it - kept jamming. She never got a shot off. What a POS.

Hog would have had her giblets.

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