If Hosts are calling this The Gungeon, then shouldn't it be listed as The Gungeon?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

If this is posted in the wrong group/forum, I apologize. I do not know where to post this question.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

1. Possibly we could...

...expand the search box function to include "alias" in the dropdown and each board could optionally have an alias(es) assigned with host approval.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

6. possibly.

[TheWraith]

2. What it should be listed as is the Firearms and Related Issues forum.

So that there isn't an artificial divide between talking about firearms and firearm issues, as there currently is.

However, this would probably be a question for the Meta Discussion forum.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. just as long as there is some consistency in what it is called so that people know where

to repost locked threads is the issue I am trying to address. I hope that I am being respectful to all DUers as it is not my intention to offend anyone.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

3. Krispos42 is calling this group the Gungeon?

I had not seen that

[Tuesday Afternoon]

5. He is not the only Host on DU3. ---

edited to include link as an example of the issue at hand:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002233914

[krispos42]

19. It's been called the Gungeon for years.

Mods, pro-gunners, anti-gunners, uninterested DUers, etc.


We have the Dungeon (for conspiracy theories) and the Gungeon (for gun politics and armed self-defense).

[ProgressiveProfessor]

20. Indeed we have

[rrneck]

7. Rather than cnange the software maybe

we should ask hosts to use the proper name in the discharge of their official duties.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

8. I think this would be the easiest and most respectful thing to do.

but, how do we do this?

[rrneck]

10. Maybe when you see it happen a gentle PM

or ask Skinner to tell everyone?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. are you suggesting that -I- PM Skinner or the Host or who exactly?

I still have not had a reply from Skinner from the last PM I sent . . .

[rrneck]

13. I dont see why you couldn't PM a host. You're a nice person.

I'm sure they'd understand. The admins are probably still pretty busy with nuts and bolts.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. Do you really think this would be the best way to handle this? ---

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Are we, as a group, decided about this? If so, then I will take it upon myself to send a Host in GD a link to this thread via PM.

I would feel better if I heard from some 2A cons regarding this before I take any further action.

[rrneck]

15. Not a bad idea.

Generally speaking hosts are pretty cool or they wouldn't be hosts. Speaking strictly For myself if I were a host I wouldn't mind.

Of course if I didn't agree I wouldn't want to be pestered about it. If they tell you to shove off then maybe turbot over to Skinner.

Hey, maybe PM the host where it appeared and ask them, as a representative of that group to handle it?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

18. ok then, I will send this link to a Host in GD.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

49. update: there is no update. no word from the Host that I contacted.

[rrneck]

50. Maybe try Krispos? Of course if all else fails

go to meta and stir up some shit.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

51. shout out to Krispos --

I think I stirred enough shit for a while

[rl6214]

56. I contacted the host and got this response:

Odin2005

Re: The gungeon



> Don't you think you should direct people to the right group, Gun control and RKBA? Most people do not know what the gungeon is and look but cannot find it under Forums & Groups.

Yes, sorry, my bad!


While very short I hope this does the job.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

60. Thanks. I hope that solves the problem.

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[Moondog]

9. According to Ralph Waldo Emerson

"a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

IMHO, the OP is arguing for consistency. But not a foolish consistency. Far from it, and to the contrary.

Given the sturm und drang that the entire topic of firearms stirs on DU, I believe that the OP is absolutely correct.

Pick a name and stick with it. And preferably one that is not perjorative, thank you very much.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. yes, thanks.

It is hard enough to navigate DU3 without a Host giving out wrong information.
I think we are all trying our best to work within the system as it is laid out. thanks.

[DanTex]

16. The Gungeon is a nick-name, Gun Control and RKBA is the official name.

Is that so bad?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. I don't know.

[ileus]

21. the right question is who doesn't know the nickname Gungeon?

IMHO it's better to leave the majority out of the loop, this is a pretty good forum. The last thing we need is to attract the attention to more emotional posters.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

22. New DUers who have threads locked in GD and are directed to the Gungeon. There is no tab for

The Gungeon.

Mind you, it is not really my business if the admin want to make this place user friendly and easy to navigate, that is for them to decide.

Just trying to determine proper terminology is all.

and while the last thing we want is emotional posters, the first thing we want is rational posters, wouldn't you agree?

[ileus]

23. Any news on our new Firearm chat group? Any interest?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

24. we need 10 "signatures" --

I guess here is as good a place as any to start the count. Has anyone asked the Admin for permission?

1. ileus
2. TA

anyone else interested please reply to this post . . .

[oneshooter]

25. Me, myself , and I. There is 3 more votes!!!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. lol

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

28. I'm in :)

[gejohnston]

29. sure

I'm in

[friendly_iconoclast]

31. I'm in!

Let's see what happens...

[ileus]

44. we have 6 assuming kpro is in.

[X_Digger]

45. Count me in..

Now, what did I just agree to? Hehe..

[ileus]

46. Reads like 7

[era veteran]

52. Count me in please

[ileus]

55. NUMBER 8 TWO MORE makes it a go

[montanto]

57. Me!

[ileus]

59. 9 Kpo we need a count...

[rrneck]

65. Bring it, sounds like fun. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

35. Here is some more information regarding starting a group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/124037860

[Hoyt]

26. I doubt most people know what "RKBA" means. "Gun Control & RKBA (AKA Gungeon)" is OK with me.

Personally, I'd like to see a whole lot more general DUers over here.

[oneshooter]

30. Well from your postings you certainly don't know what it means.

[Hoyt]

32. Tell us about it-- what "militia" are you in? For anyone wondering -- "MinuteMen" doesn't count.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

34. I happen to be a militia of ONE

standing at the ready, if ever called for duty

are you ready, willing and able to do your civic duty?

[Hoyt]

38. Yea, but you ain't "well regulated."

[Tuesday Afternoon]

40. lol

don't you just wish you could inspect me

in your dreams, darlin. in your dreams.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

42. +1 ;) n/t

[montanto]

58. Where in the 2nd does it say that one must be in a militia to receive this right?

Where does it say that if one is not in a militia one does not have that right?

[liberal_biker]

61. Sure I am.

Every firearm I have is in good working order, and I have a few which are very standard military calibers. They'll gobble up 9mm NATO and 7.62 or 5.56 all day long.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

62. welcome to DU and RKBA

[Hoyt]

63. Not impressed.

[liberal_biker]

64. Don't care.

Wasn't trying to impress you. Merely pointing out where you were wrong.

[oneshooter]

36. I've done my time in the Military, have you?

[Hoyt]

39. Does not count in this context. If that were the criteria, only about 7% could even own a gun.

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That's percentage of living population that has served in our military.

[oneshooter]

41. Scared to answer the question?

[ellisonz]

48. It was a stupid question...

The early United States clearly distinguished between the Legion of the United States and the Militia.

The Legion of the United States was a reorganization and extension of the United States Army from 1792 to 1796 under the command of Major General Anthony Wayne.[1]

The impetus for the legion came from General Arthur St. Clair's disastrous defeat at the Battle of the Wabash by Blue Jacket and Little Turtle's tribal confederacy in November 1791. The Founding Fathers had been suspicious of standing armies, believing that the militia would be suited to all the nation's defensive needs. However, the defeat of St. Clair and his predecessor, Josiah Harmar, whose forces were drawn principally from state militias, caused a shift in thinking. President Washington picked his old lieutenant, Wayne, to lead a new professional army. At the recommendation of Secretary of War Henry Knox, it was decided to recruit and train a "Legion" — i.e., a force that would combine all land combat arms of the day (cavalry, heavy and light infantry, artillery) into one efficient brigade-sized force divisible into stand-alone combined arms teams. Congress agreed with this proposal and agreed to augment the small standing army until "the United States shall be at peace with the Indian tribes."
[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_the_United_States

[oneshooter]

54. Despite your interference, the question still stands.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

37. it would help if Hosts correctly identified the group when locking threads, wouldn't you agree?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

43. IMHO...

Locking a thread without proper direction as to where it belongs is quite rude, maybe not as rude as "toting" but still, decidedly rude.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

47. you and I are in total and complete agreement on this matter --

not hospitable at all to new members or any guests visiting that may be considering joining DU.

but, yeah . . . not as rude as totin'... them damned ole death spewers

[Tuesday Afternoon]

33. and another lock by the same Host ---

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002238374