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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:20 PM Aug 2013

Found more anti-gun "talking points" guides

http://www.progressivemajorityaction.org/gun_messaging

https://progressivemajorityaction.nationbuilder.com/assets/pages/64/Voicing_Our_Values-To_Curtail_Gun_Violence.pdf

Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

Gun Messaging

Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

This is an addendum to our book, Voicing Our Values: A Message Guide for Candidates. Our purpose is to help lawmakers, candidates and activists understand how to argue in favor of current proposals to curtail gun violence. As we explain here, we have tried to make this resource as easy-to-use as possible by placing model language in boxes throughout. We encourage you to adapt the language to your own voice and personalize it with your own knowledge and experience. Much more comprehensive, detailed or technical talking points are available from advocacy groups listed at the end of this paper.

QUICK LINKS:

How to introduce your argument
About Background Checks
About Military-Style Assault Weapons
About High-Capacity Ammunition Magazines
How to rebut common pro-gun arguments
Sources for more detailed talking points
A PDF copy of Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

Our most important advice: (1) Lay out the problem in very simple terms—most Americans have no idea how easy our laws make it for dangerous people to buy handguns and assault weapons; (2) Don’t let pro-gun advocates sidetrack the debate into “straw man” arguments, obscure “facts,” or a focus on the technical properties of guns—about 90 percent of their arguments are actually designed to change the subject so you need to insist on a debate that is relevant to the legislation at hand; and (3) Generally:
Don’t say . . .

Gun control

Stricter gun laws

You oppose the 2nd Amendment


Preventing gun violence

Stronger gun laws

Support for the 2nd Amendment goes hand-in-hand with keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people

Why . . .

People have negative reactions to “gun control” and “stricter” laws, and they feel positive about the 2nd Amendment. Also, average voters have a favorable view of the National Rifle Association (NRA). You are welcome to criticize the NRA when speaking to the progressive base, but it won’t help you persuade swing voters. That’s why these talking points don’t include anti-NRA language. If the situation requires you to attack the NRA, then condemn “NRA lobbyists” or the “NRA’s out-of-touch leaders.” Do not attack average NRA members or local NRA leaders; that language doesn’t work.


http://www.progressivemajorityaction.org/sources_for_more_detailed_talking_points

Sources for more detailed talking points

More information from the experts:

Brady Campaign on background checks, on military-style assault weapons, and on high-capacity ammunition magazines.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns on a variety of gun measures and "Demand A Plan."

Center for American Progress on “Changing the Conversation: Preventing Violence, Not Gun Control”

Message Matters one-pagers on guns.

For an excellent book by Dennis Henigan about how to debate the NRA, read Lethal Logic: Exploding the Myths that Paralyze American Gun Policy.


Here's the Center for American Progress one

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/141743245/CAP-Memo

Changing the Conversation: Preventing Violence, Not Gun Control





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Found more anti-gun "talking points" guides (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 OP
And I thought Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #1
Hogs at the trough. nt rrneck Aug 2013 #2
Notice what's missing? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #3
Yes I do Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #4
And the reason is clear: Look at the backers -- Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #5
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
3. Notice what's missing?
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:42 PM
Aug 2013

They offer talking points, but what about meaningful solutions?

Here's four, but accept them or reject them as you want. Or add to them.

1) Economic reform.

2) Increase prison time for criminals caught using firearms in their criminal activities. Separate gun-using criminals from guns in a real way by keeping them locked up longer. Gun-carrying gang members in Chicago, for example, should get more than 2 years (and then discounted to 85% of that if they are on good behavior while in prison).

3) Adopt universal mental-health care. The passage of the ACA, with penalties for those who don't purchase health insurance, is not a good alternative for universal mental-health care.

4) Drop the strategy which contributed to the loss of 58 seats in the House in 1994, and contributed to the shift of the control of Congress to the Republicans for the first time since 1954. Stop demonizing people who choose to own firearms for lawful purposes such as deterring some criminals from engaging home invasions. Voters who own firearms for lawful purposes don't like it, including Democrats and Independents. Seek cooperation instead of alienation.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. Yes I do
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:53 AM
Aug 2013

very rarely have I seen anyone on that side offer suggestions and I do not think I have ever seen a compromise.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
5. And the reason is clear: Look at the backers --
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 11:06 AM
Aug 2013

"former" GOPer Bloomberg and the GOP-founded, GOP-led Brady Center.

Does ANYONE think these banners want to use government social policy as a means of addressing social problems? I believe a DU group has as its "mission statement" a goal of working with any group which shares their special interest in gun bans and control.

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