'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires his concealed handgun

[shadowrider]

The game was called "point 'em out, knock 'em out," and it was as random as it was brutal.

The object: Target an innocent victim for no other reason than they are there, then sucker punch him or her.

But on this day in Lansing, there would be no punch. The teen-age attacker had a stun gun. He did not know his would-be victim was carrying a legally concealed pistol.

The teen lost the game.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/08/point_it_out_knock_it_out_brut.html#incart_m-rpt-2

[Xipe Totec]

1. Lucky to be Alive to tell the Story. nt

[shadowrider]

2. Victim or perp? n/t

[Xipe Totec]

3. Both, actually, now that you mention it

The victim because the taser did not fire.

The perp because the victim chose to fire low rather than going for the chest.

A bullet to the torax would have probably been fatal.

[shadowrider]

4. You're correct. Both are lucky to be alive

but in defensive shootings, adrenaline, sweating, shakes etc. affect the shooter. I don't think he intentionally fired low, but the perp is lucky he did.

One must now wonder, did the perp learn his lesson or will we read about him at some point in the future?

[Xipe Totec]

5. Prisons are correctional facilities in name only.

I don't think anybody comes out of those hell holes reformed.

You're right about the shot, though, probably low by accident, not design.

[petronius]

6. What an incredibly stupid game - glad no one died, and the victim was unharmed

I guess there was no way to charge the accomplices, but I do hope they all correct their life-paths from here on...

[ileus]

7. Firearm did as intended, protect a life.

Rare to see someone CCin' such a heavy firearm these days.

[Jenoch]

8. It seems like the teenage thug in this story is a chickenshit

to use the stungun. In other versions of the game, the thugs just sucker punch their victims.

The link below is to a story where the young victim was killed by the sucker punch. The 17 year old perp is going to trial as an adult. Great fun, huh?

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/09/25/regional/saint-cloud-killing-charges

[Ghost in the Machine]

10. "In other versions of the game, the thugs just sucker punch their victims." Yeah, my uncle and I...

...used to play this about 30 years ago. My mom is the oldest of 10 kids, and my uncle was one of the youngest. He was 10 years older than me, and was always more of a big brother than an uncle. He was also my Sensei and my Mentor. We both worked at Aunt's biker bar as bouncers. Some nights, after just a little too much Jim Beam and cocaine, one of us would pick a random person out of the crowd and say "bet ya' can't knock *that* one out with one hit!". One thing I can say is that we never picked on any "small guys", either. We were both around 6'3" and 225-235 lbs, and chose someone bigger than ourselves, 9 out of ten times some big bear of a biker.

Looking back, it was a very cruel, and stupid, thing to do and we were lucky to get away without being shot or stabbed. Back then, though, were also yhe days when you could go out side, have a slobber-knocker, then come back in and have a beer, laughing through the suds-n-blood. Those days have long passed. Too many sissies out there now who think the way to act "manly" is to pull a gun and shoot someone.

The times, they are a changin'...

Ghost

[Jenoch]

11. A little less than 30 years ago I was

a college wrestler at 6'3" at the 190# weight class. Of course a couple years later I was your size but the difference was, I left the anger on the wrestling mat. I was never the fighter type, I was more the kind of guy to use my size to break up fights.

It appears you got caught up in the biker bar mentality back then. You probably would have kicked the shit out of me back then. Then again, I had a teammate who wrestled at 167# who may have kicked the shit out of you. I saw him fighting in a bare knuckles competition when he was sick, but he fought anyway. His appendix ruptured in the ring. Of course his IQ was only slightly higher than room temperature.

[exboyfil]

9. Seems like Michigan needs better laws

than a two year sentence for an unprovoked attack by a stun gun even if then gun did not work.

[NYC_SKP]

12. Looks like a Darwin thing going on here.

On behalf of both parties.

[ermoore]

13. Lucky dude(s)

Seems like the shooter is the guy who got lucky. Ain't no reason to shoot a kid running away. He's lucky he aimed low and the kid is mostly alright.

That said, people playing this game might deserve a shot in the *ss . . .