Seems like laws against carrying guns are falling apart in Illinois..

[virginia mountainman]

The way courts are going in Illinois, seems like all you will need is a FOID card, to carry a gun..

..Very interesting..

A Cook County judge reversed herself Monday and dismissed weapons charges against a Chicago man after a recent Illinois Supreme Court ruling that called part of the state's gun law unconstitutional.

Cook County Circuit Judge Ellen Mandeltort last week denied Deafalla Haddad's request to drop the charges.

But the Supreme Court ruled Thursday that part of the state's gun law was unconstitutional and advised prosecutors to drop charges in certain cases. That ruling fell in step with a federal court decision earlier this year declaring that the state's gun laws violated the U.S. Constitution

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-judge-reverses-herself-charges-dropped-in-gun-case-after-ruling-20130916,0,576439.story

I wonder if Chicago, and some of the suburbs, wish they had NOT been so overreaching in their gun control laws, that ended up getting those egregious, and NOW, many more restrictions tossed out of court with them. They would have been far better off to have simply kept their mouths and the taxpayer wallets SHUT, but you know how it is, some people forget that the stove is hot, and MUST get burned every few years to remind them that the "stove" really is hot.

[Pullo]

1. It's a shame, because Chicago's gun laws had been working so well

[AnotherMcIntosh]

2. That's why we have a very low crime rate.

That, and the governmental policy of shipping manufacturing jobs from Chicago and other cities to foreign countries.

It's too bad that the youth, and the now former youth, don't realize that all they have to do is get a job at McDonalds.

/sarcasm off

[AnotherMcIntosh]

3. Do the politicians wish they had NOT been so overreaching in their gun control laws? Not a chance.

If the MSM and the gun prohibitionists can make enough noise about guns, they know that they will continue to have political support and less people will be able to have their voices heard with respect to the policy of shipping manufacturing jobs from Chicago and other cities to foreign countries.

What do these politicians think is going to happen to the young and not-so-young when factories are shipped from Chicago to Mexico, Canada, China, and other foreign countries?

[coldmountain]

4. This post is a good example of a post that shouldn't be on DU

DU needs to change the TOS

[hack89]

6. Don't you think you should get more time under your belt

before telling us what DU is all about?

These types of posts have been here for years. There is no need to change.

[Starboard Tack]

7. Welcome to our little Teabagger corner of DU

This is where we get to practice our debating skills.

[coldmountain]

8. There isn't a debate just propagandizing of rightwing talking points

[Starboard Tack]

9. Exactly. That's why I said "practice"

The key is to ignore the knuckleheads who are not here to debate, but only to back slap with their buddies, and engage with the handful of enlightened gun owners and enthusiasts who actually care more about public safety than assuaging their personal fears or promoting the gun lobby.

[Pullo]

11. Yes because no true Democrat supports the RKBA

[NYC_SKP]

13. Yup. Not a one, not a single true Democrat supports the RKBA as an individual right.

Feel free to share!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. Just a couple of weeks ago being anti-war was a RW talking point.

[DonP]

10. By all means, go tell Skinner quickly, there's a forum for people like you - Ask The Administrators

I'm sure it will come as a complete surprise when you inform him that there are people here "claiming to be Dems" that disagree with you on the 2nd amendment.

It won't be the first time some newbie shows up to tell him how to run his railroad.

[Eleanors38]

16. Actually, you can complain here, Bansalot, ATA, and in GD. An embarassment of riches.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. Yes, we should not have been so progressive and hoped the NRA Angel of Death passed over our houses.

[Eleanors38]

15. Only thing to pass over my house recently was a flock of busy-boweled grackles.

[robotevil]

17. Seriously? It takes two fucking seconds to check wikipedia.

Chicago was recently named "Murder Capital of the U.S.A."

Do you have a source for this? Ohhh, wait you don't. Because all these cities have a much higher murder per-capita than Chicago:


Crime statistics are listed for U.S. cities with a population of 250,000 or greater. Rates are based on cases per 100,000 people for all of calendar year 2011.

City, State | Population | Murders Per Capita

New Orleans, Louisiana 346,974 57.6

Detroit, Michigan 713,239 48.2

St. Louis, Missouri 320,454 35.3

Newark, New Jersey 278,064 33.8

Baltimore, Maryland 626,848 31.3

Oakland, California 395,317 26.3

Kansas City, Missouri 461,458 23.4

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1,530,873 21.2

Atlanta, Georgia 425,533 20.7

Cincinnati, Ohio 297,160 20.5

Stockton, California 295,136 19.7

Cleveland, Ohio 397,106 18.6

Memphis, Tennessee 652,725 17.9

Washington, District of Columbia 617,996 17.5

Miami, Florida 404,901 16.8

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Additional reading:

* http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/15/1599631/no-chicago-isnt-proof-that-gun-regulation-doesnt-work/

[gejohnston]

18. the FBI

http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-murder-capital-of-america-fbi-142122290.html
it is total number not per capita.

Think Progress is has one thing wrong: Chicago is proof that gun prohibition doesn't work. Guns have been regulated on the state level since the founding, and the federal level since the 1920s. OK, it has a couple of things wrong. Gang members and drug dealers don't go to the local legal gun store, They don't get IL FOIDs and they don't go to gun shows or stores in the next state either (which would be a federal crime and would be detected when doing BGC and inventory control forms the ATF inspects when ever they feel like it.)