Cross post from GD.

[oneshooter]

And WHAT law is he going to propose?

Know of what you speak of, at least enough that you don't sound like a total moron.


It seems that the folks over at GD had no clue as what the post was about.

[petronius]

1. Here's the text of Sen. de Leon's bill (Calif. SB 808, 2014)

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB808

From the summary:

Firearms: identifying information.

Existing law authorizes the Department of Justice to assign a distinguishing number or mark of identification to any firearm whenever the firearm lacks a manufacturer’s number or other mark of identification, or whenever the manufacturer’s number or other mark of identification or distinguishing number or mark assigned by the department has been destroyed or obliterated.

This bill would require a person who makes or assembles a firearm to first apply to the department for a unique serial number or other identifying mark, as provided. The bill would make a violation of these provisions a misdemeanor. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

And Sen. de Leon's press release.

[oneshooter]

2. He still sounds like an idiot. n/t

[Ranchemp.]

3. Link?

Never mind, found it, I also noticed that it was locked PDQ, makes me wonder if this had been an anti-gun thread, would it have been locked?
Recent events lead me to believe that it wouldn't have been.

[NYC_SKP]

4. Sometimes hosts think that "big news" applies if it's an article that makes guns look bad.

Two in particular will bend over backward to tie up the vote.

If, on the other hand, it's supportive of gun rights, it will not last long.

Thankfully, hosts don't stay hosts forever.

[petronius]

5. Observing the GD Hosting Game triggers amusement and sympathy in equal parts, these days

Based on my assessment of the current GD process, I think that what oneshooter needed to do was first frame the 'ghost gun' discussion as Big News by providing national sources and pointing out that it affects multiple states. Then, the post that was locked would perhaps have stood as an ancillary comment referring to a primary Big News thread.

Or, just discuss it in here where people who are actually interested in real discussion on the topic know to look...

[Lizzie Poppet]

6. At least one of the hosts in GD openly opposes the "no gun threads" rule...

...and not only won't lock them, he's actually posted them himself. Oh, and he outs alerters in public forums, too.

It's a huge fucking joke...

[NYC_SKP]

7. Yes.

If we're thinking of the same one, they are no longer a GD host (nor am I) but manages to turn a simple thread into a two-week spectacle.

Not only have they outed alerters, they've copied and pasted parts of Host discussion threads in attempts to intimidate or shame another host.

It never works, but it sure is annoying.

[Lizzie Poppet]

9. Glad to hear they're not a host any more.

I wrote a seriously pissed off PM to Skinner over that. Response? Crickets, of course. But it made me feel a bit better...

[NYC_SKP]

17. Here's a little bit of stirring:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014704545#post5

[DonP]

10. On the bright side ...

Being a petty bully in an online forum is about the total extent of their gun control "success" an "activism" for the past decade or so. All in all pretty pathetic.

Not much to show for all their "sturm und drang" and personal angst over us little folks down here in the Gungeon.

In the meantime, while they hid a post or two, ... the SHOT show just finished a record week in Vegas with over 65,000 attendees, Illinois started approving it's first batch of concealed carry permits today for instructors and CCW classes are backed up here for 6 weeks or more.

All this and there still isn't a single state looking at repeal of CCW.

[NYC_SKP]

8. "this right here has ability with a 30 caliber clip to disburse with 30 bullets within half a second

Those 30 caliber clips, they're CRAZY! And dang, 30 bullets in HALF a second? 3,600 rounds a minute!

(note, must have 120 30-caliber clips to fire off 3,600 rounds)

[sarisataka]

11. Magazine fed?

[NYC_SKP]

12. I watched the longer version. A little bit of stupid goes such a long way...

[oneshooter]

13. Where do you get AR lowers as a casting?

All I have ever been able to find is finished lowers. And you will need a hell of a lot more machinery than a drill press to complete it. This video is 20+ min. of pure ignorance. And he was elected?

[spin]

14. I've noticed a couple of times recently when a gun control advocate called ...

a magazine a "magazine clip."

It seems they are finally attempting to use proper firearm terminology but are still in the process of mastering it.

I could be wrong. Perhaps they feel "magazine clip" sounds far more scary than just a clip or a magazine. This guy even steps it up higher by saying "30 magazine clip" which I would interpret as meaning the weapon has a clip that holds 30 magazines and can fire all the rounds in the 30 magazines in one half of a second.

Assuming the clip holds 30 round magazines, that would mean the weapon could fire 900 rounds in 0.5 seconds. I can't imagine the recoil such a weapon would generate but I wouldn't want to trying firing it unless it was firmly mounted. Of course the single barrel would melt unless it was made of some super metal used by an advanced alien civilization from some distant planet.

[Skeeter Barnes]

15. Wouldn't that gun he's holding require NFA registry anyway?

Looks like the barrel is well short of 16 inches. That's not legal in any state without the extensive background check, approval from local law enforcement and payment of a $200 tax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-barreled_rifle

[Lurks Often]

16. He probably borrowed the gun from a police department

for his speech. I doubt it was a seized weapon.