Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumOops Texas! But she was scared for her life.
Imagine if the guy was also armed and had a CCW. I guess whichever was left standing would've been standing his/her ground.
http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Assistant-Harris-County-attorney-arrested-on-aggravated-assault-charge-241042031.html?fb_action_ids=10202369103222508&fb_action_types=og.recommends
Maybe she was following the Zimmerman technique of "see someone you don't like the look of and follow them".
http://www.khou.com/news/local/Harris-County-attorney-assault-charges-road-rage-241128821.html
Nice to know we have the right people carrying guns to protect our families.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)In any event, there's enough stupid on both sides of the legislative question to circle the moon 27 times with football fields filled with elephants.
Kevin De Leon has enough stupid for our entire state's stupid needs through the next ice age.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Aimed atr the dude int eh video, not you NYC_SKP, just in case anybody misunderstands.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)These people make laws regulating things they know nothing about.
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
LMAO! What an uninformed jackass! Sadly, he's a Democrat and really makes us look bad.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)! was fearful," Sciacca told KHOU 11 News when asked about the incident.
glad in this case she was arrested
petronius
(26,598 posts)sometimes made out to be. Taking the news report at face value, it sounds as though this person committed a serious crime and deserves some serious charges...
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Thought her position and declaration of fear was going to get her off
double wrong
Not!
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)That is to say as a government official, she is one of the "approved ones". Like the New York official who used his laser sighted Glock as a laser pointer. I would be in jail, he might get a chat but will keep the gun and the "deputizing". Like cops, they are above the law. IOW, as a government official she would not have the restrictions and probably not the stringent training requirements Texas requires. Therefore, your comparison is invalid. A better comparison to her would be LAPD using blue pick ups driven by Hispanic women as target practice.
There five principles of self defense that applies to SYG or DTR equally in the US:
Innocence
Imminence
Proportionality
Avoidance
Reasonableness
She has none of this. He would.
http://lawofselfdefense.com/the-five-principles-of-the-law-of-self-defense-in-a-nutshell/
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Had she really been scared, she would not have followed the guy and then attacked him.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Personal protection is up to you.
Safety first, and carry on.
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)What would you have done in this situation? Pulled out your PPD when she pointed hers at you? Would've shot her dead, would you? Or maybe she would've shot you and your family.
No wonder those who carry guns are 4.5 times more likely to be shot than those who don't.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)the cops don't have the ability, let alone the legal obligation, to protect you. It is ultimately your own responsibility.
BTW, if criminologists debunked the "study" why buy into it?
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)My questions were directed to "Family Fun Guy", Ileus. I think he's capable of responding for himself when it comes to explaining the meaning of his post.
Now, your remark about the "study". It was not "debunked" IMO. Secondly, criminologists are not gods, nor was the study about criminology.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)I can't help but put my big nose in. Besides, public forum and all of that.
Perhaps "debunked" is the wrong word. Found to be "invalid" would be closer. True, criminologists are not gods, neither are crusading ER doctors gods or scientists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
The study has never been independently verified. Until it is, it means very little.
Since Kellerman told a couple of criminologists to pound sand when they asked for the data to test his study................. You get the drift.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)You can have a temper or you can have a gun. You can't have both.
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Anyone who has ever been shown to have a temper should be banned from owning a gun? Or banned from carrying a gun?
That would leave few very cool-headed individuals with guns, including sociopaths and contract killers.
Wouldn't it be great if handguns, or "Personal Protection Devices", as some like to call them, could be designed not to function when the handler is experiencing certain emotions? But even I don't think that is feasible.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)I'm neither disagreeing with you, nor agreeing. I just thought your statement warranted further examination and discussion. I was not attacking you, but rather trying to process what you said and seeking clarification of what you meant.
My point was that everyone gets angry at times and the only people I can think of, who kill without anger, are sociopaths and contract killers.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)My point was that people who carry can't go pointing their guns at people who make them mad. It's the wrong thing to do.
How you jumped to temper tests and nobody having guns but sociopaths and contract killers is beyond me. I thought it would go without saying that I didn't mean someone who stubbed their toe and exclaimed "GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!" or anyone who had ever become irate on the phone with a nasty bill collector. Things like that are understandable and quite different from stalking someone who cut you off and drawing down on them and then trying to claim it was self defense.
Your type of "discussion" seems more like a bizarre encounter to me. I'll keep that in mind and avoid your threads in the future. Have a good weekend.
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Sorry if I got you all riled up there. No offense meant, but thanks for explaining. I couldn't agree more. You too, have a great weekend.