Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumWendy Davis pro-2nd Amendment? Gun group suspicious
Davis told The Associated Press that she supports expanding gun rights in Texas. She said that includes open carry a position that puts her at odds with her own party, but one she hopes will keep her from alienating gun-rights advocates in a deeply conservative state that strongly supports the Second Amendment.
Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America (GOA), points out the Democrat's voting record isn't indicative of someone who supports Second Amendment rights.
"In the past, she has opposed people being able to buy and sell [firearms] privately and she also voted against letting people who have a concealed-carry permit carry on campus," he tells OneNewsNow. "And now she wants us to believe that she's pro-Second Amendment, a pro-gun-toting mama? I don't think so."
http://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2014/02/10/wendy-davis-pro-2nd-amendment-gun-group-suspicious
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)simply pandering to attract voters from the middle or center right who might be pro choice and fed up with the likes of Rick Perry? The base of each party already made up their minds regardless of guns or anything else.
That is something Texans have to figure out for themselves
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)
absolutely no restrictions on who what and where with guns. What other amendment has no qualifiers?
So if your not 100% gun nuttery you are not pro 2nd Amendment.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Where "gunners' claim "no restrictions" to use anything they want?
Or is that another claim you pulled from your nether regions, hoping no one will notice?
We'll wait for your examples.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)If I was religious I would pray for them.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)bars restaurants churches?
Why all the attempts to over turn new laws in C0 an NY
Oh no you just like new restrictions and support any and all reasonable gun laws
Give me a f...king break!
I don 't play your games
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)At least in the case of restaurants and churches. That should be up to the restaurant and church. Bars, or any other establishment that sells intoxicants to be consumed on the premise, there is a case to be made for compelling State interest.
CO laws were ill conceived and not support by the people of Colorado. While UBC checks are good, that specific mechanism isn't.
The NY law isn't reasonable and was also ill conceived since it was written by Brady lobbyists and passed unread by anyone including Coumo.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)Make a wild claim about absolutists, then when actually questioned about it, quickly fall back to the "NRA Talking Points" or "I don't play your games". We've seen it before, plenty of times from others that also make stuff up.
While you're at it, want to tell us about your Dad's shotgun and hunting heritage too? Don't forget to prove you're really a "reasonable" gun owner so we all take you seriously. Bona Fides are very important to gun control "Fans".
Gun control "fans" not only can't seem to get jack or shit passed and just got handed another loss in the 9th circuit today.
Geez, if you guys can't get a win out of the "9th Circus" in San Francisco it's pretty pathetic.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Not a single one of them believes anything resembling that inane bullshit.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)If you don't believe in anything goes what regulations do you propose to combat gun violence? What restrictions on gun ownership and usage do you propose?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I support:
* Universal background checks, with access to the NICS system by citizens and additional mental healthcare data incorporated into the "yes/no" decision.
* Mandating proper secure firearms storage and penalizing non-compliance if the improperly secured weapon is used in a crime.
* Continued rollback of the idiotic War on Drugs, one of the largest contributors to violent crime in the US.
* More stringent requirements for CCW permitting, including a range-based demonstration of competency and a meaningfully-comprehensive test on the laws regarding employment of lethal force.
Just for a start...
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)curb gun violence or any other violence because said restrictions only affect those who are not committing it. In the US, it is the drug war and gangs. We have a gang problem. If Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, DC, NOLA, and Newark were to secede, our murder rate would be as low or lower than most of Europes.
Here are the real issues:
war on drugs
no jobs in impoverished parts of the city
zoning ordnances make it impossible for businesses and residences to coexist to make the neighborhoods walkable
neglected infrastructure
political corruption. One only has to compare the people lost to the criminal justice sytem and the crime rate of their cities. In Chicago, the altermen and gangs have mutually beneficial relationships. I doubt Chicago is unique. Boss Tweed and Tim Sullivan (Yes, New York's first gun control law was written by a gangster) might be dead, but their business model isn't. When the residents in the South Side want something done about the gangs, city hall sends someone to say "we need stricter gun laws because those rednecks from Montana bring guns in the neighborhoods." It is really bullshit theater and scapegoating just like Wayne La Pierre's "mental health registry".
I want to curb all violence. 2/3s of US gun deaths are suicides. MAIG et al are concerned about gun suicides. So am I, but and also concerned about he other 48 percent of the suicides where a gun isn't used. Why are MAIG, Brady etc. silent about those? The truth is "gun murders" "gun violence" "gun suicides" are a play on words similar to glittering generalities.
That said, I support most of what LP said above.