Some here...
...favor registration ONLY because it makes enforcing gun laws (like bans) easier.
Some here work diligently at dodging questions about bans making any difference. They TRY to imply that some members have evil and lawless intentions.
* Shouldn't we be all about ANY LAW that makes enforcing another law easier? 
* I'm sure many crimes are about 1 rubber hose away from a confession and conviction. 
This is a fundamental example of the foolishness embodied in the idea that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Let's check back on the beneficent consequences of some ideas from Senator Wilson.
My fellow DU members; grouping all pro-RKBA folks as your enemy is not a Democratic good. It serves to stifle discussion; it is an action that discourages progress.
Am I pro-RKBA? Yes. 
Are my ideals congruent with those of Wayne or Ted? No 
Not hardly!
I suppose many pro-control folks would be more comfortable if all pro-RKBA folks were ideologically identical to John Birch, Adolf Hitler or Ted Nugent. It would make discounting any of their views or ideas much easier.
I happen to have a serious dislike for broccoli so all of my ideas are analogous to those of HW.
Have fun with that.
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It's a dangerous thing when the righteousness of one's position blinds them to the inanity of their words and behaviors.
Such behavior as using guilt by association and denying raw facts in favor of making emotional points (think about the children) are not really Democratic principles.
I K and R your OP, friend.
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...the odd moment when an idea, previously disparaged and branded repulsive, will inspire a new thought or be seen in a different light. Such was my experience in considering the death penalty.
I'm not reacting in this thread so much to anti-gun fervor as I am to a certain type of thinking that is shared by those who view all Muslims as terrorists, most African-Americans as criminals and many women as no better than servants. Many moderates here have good ideas and spark discussion and exchange with their posts and replies.
This shouldn't be a discussion where pro-RKBA folks toss all pro-control policies into the "evil idea bucket" and all pro-rights policies into the "good". Conversely, pro-control folks shouldn't just out of hand toss all anti-gun policies into their "good idea bucket" and all pro-gun policies into the "evil idea bucket".
We'll always hear a lot about Rosa Parks and for good reason. We don't hear many names in connection with how wrong was it to ever make a "whites only" sign acceptable. Guns aren't a clear cut issue. Discussion is vital.
and thanks.
...that a bloc dedicated to a mission should be so willing to embrace the kind of absolutist groupthink that progressives have so traditionally been against.
And yes, indeed, it's what we find among teabaggers and the like: the broadbrushing and ignorance and unwillingness to sincerely engage in authentic dialogue!
Happy Sunday to you!
...if they participate in an honest exchange, I couldn't care about their reasons for writing as long as they read and reply with respect.
The ones who don't are much funnier than a penis joke. 
...is what I think of as one arrived at with less input from a brain and more from a gland.
But let's not forget "Should it work?"
...we can't have that!
1. to offer an apology or excuse for some fault, insult, failure, or injury: He apologized for accusing her falsely.
2. to make a formal defense in speech or writing.
In the #1 sense, it is unnecessary; in the #2 sense, it might help. 
"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms."
As we are elsewhere. They're kind of touchy.
Jail: a further demonstration that "control" is a myth.
People are locked in cells, guarded and monitored 24/7. Assaults, murders, rapes, drug use and thefts never occur in prisons.
ETA: I've not heard of any DUIs in prison so there may be something to that idea.
