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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:02 PM Apr 2014

How can we encourage safe storage?

How can we get people to move their guns from those pretty wood and glass cabinets to safes? It isn't just about small children finding a loaded one, although 62 per year are 62 too many, the larger issue is this:
Most crime guns enter the black market through theft. according to the, rather old, Wright-Rossi study, five out of six. That was before NICS. That is also the main reason most countries have safe storage laws.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/abstract.aspx?ID=155885

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Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. Some kind of a real
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:13 PM
Apr 2014

tax rebate or voucher to make them very cheap to purchase. Good safes can get very expensive and pistol lock boxes should be almost free.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
4. far too many variables.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:26 PM
Apr 2014

That said .. willful negligence and unsecured with a child in the home? Involuntary manslaughter. Much like children left alone or in hot cars. It really seems to have lessened those tragedies in the SW of the U.S.. not eliminated sadly but real prosecutions would have a positive effect

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
3. I like the idea of credits.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:22 PM
Apr 2014

It works for tankless water heaters and energy efficient windows.
Surely lives saved are worth just as much today as 10-15 years later.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. Honestly, it will probably take a carrot and stick combination.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:52 PM
Apr 2014

Some sort of realistic incentives to get people to lock up, and very strong penalties for those who don't.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
8. Persuade MSM and major event sponsors to air ads advocating
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:48 AM
Apr 2014

for the use of safes in the home. Instead of treating guns as something where people avert their eyes, T.V., newspapers, major on-line sites should be openly supporting safe gun storage as a central component of gun culture. Put another way, there really should be a Super Bowl ad for safe gun storage.

A far-out idea, put into a building code the requirement a safe or equivalent hardened & fireproof "closet" be part of new construction. It doesn't have to be used as a gun safe, but it certainly should meet the standards for one.

Improve quality standards for lock boxes. A quick parousal of some web sites reveals complaints about modern lock box reliability & functionality. Some of these are Cali-approved products.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. I moved mine from wood and glass after a B&E
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:38 AM
Apr 2014

where the neighbors kid stole my wife's purse.


Now I have all mine in three different safes...gave away my gun cabinet when I moved.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. Those who seek to stigmatize all things gun won't stand for anything positive. Here's why:
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:46 AM
Apr 2014

They would be against, for example, public service announcements encouraging safe storage. Why?

Because it would make gun ownership seem NORMAL and OK.

Can't have that.

It's identical to the RW resistance to safe sex programs, it's really just the same thing.

But to answer the question, I'd use PSAs and try to find ways to lower the price, maybe support selling safes and locks at cost with the difference being made up through firearm or ammo purchases, or other funding schemes.

I most fear the homes that have firearms but little money to keep them safe, so I'd support helping them become affordable.

Of course people would have to actually USE these things, so comprehensive safety messaging should be part of the solution.



ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
13. WA state waives the sales tax on gun safes.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 03:16 PM
Apr 2014

It's a good start, but the cost of a gun safe is still quite high.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
15. I have the cost of a VERY good used car or truck tied up in my 3.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:58 PM
Apr 2014

But since I am in the NFA game, its a requirement, I knew it going in and have been dilligent on watching for deals as people changed thier circumstance and storage need.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
17. It is noteworthy that the most outspoken "gun violence prevention" advocates here are silent...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:32 PM
Apr 2014

It is noteworthy that the most outspoken "gun violence prevention" advocates here are silent on this.

It lead one to draw a conclusion that they're only interested in ways of reducing gun violence, which involve limiting the rights of people where guns are concerned, and/or limiting what guns they can own.

Oh wait...their SOP in bansalot indicates that as well.

Nevermind.

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