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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu May 15, 2014, 08:34 AM May 2014

The “Guns Everywhere Law” Keeps Us Safe Nowhere

It was a long week in Atlanta, so I headed to a dirty unkempt bar to start “taking a bit of the edge off.” Now, I’m getting ready to have my first of many drinks when my periphery catches a scene so confusing, it makes me think I should just drive home and lay off the bourbon for a while. Playing on the TV is an overview of a bill recently passed by Georgia’s legislature that will take effect starting in July.

The law, labeled by liberals as the “Guns Everywhere Law” and by conservatives as the “Safe Carry Protection Act,” allows licensed gun owners to take their weapons into bars and churches. It also even lets people pack heat inside government buildings, schools, and some areas of airports.

I have to admit that I panicked a little bit: how was no one else finding the scene of a fellow dipsomaniac packing a Smith & Wesson at a bar– AT A BAR – strange?!

After signing the bill into law, Georgia’s governor, Nathan Deal (R), stated that, “Our state has some of the best protections for gun owners in the United States. And today we strengthen those rights protected by our nation’s most revered founding document.” The NRA called it, “the most comprehensive pro-gun reform legislation introduced in recent history.”

http://www.article-3.com/the-guns-everywhere-law-keeps-us-safe-nowhere-913902
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The “Guns Everywhere Law” Keeps Us Safe Nowhere (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2014 OP
You are aware blueridge3210 May 2014 #1
once the profit starts going down because people are avoiding ellenfl May 2014 #2
Safe? Straw Man May 2014 #3
GA catches up with NY? After all these years. nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #4
Lol guy goes to a bar to get smashed clffrdjk May 2014 #5
Are lives worth less when inside a bar? ileus May 2014 #6
Typical opinion piece: lots of fluff but not much substance. ManiacJoe May 2014 #7
Typical of the kind of post made by SecMo blueridge3210 May 2014 #9
I first thought of listing states that allow carry in bars sarisataka May 2014 #8
Illinois uses the 51% rule DonP May 2014 #10
Ohio has had "restaurant carry" since Sept. 2011. BigAlanMac May 2014 #11
 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
1. You are aware
Thu May 15, 2014, 08:39 AM
May 2014

that bars are free to prohibit weapons on the premises if they choose? That if churches do not "opt-in" the law is the same as before? Was there something about the new legislation passed that you wished to discuss?

ellenfl

(8,660 posts)
2. once the profit starts going down because people are avoiding
Thu May 15, 2014, 08:40 AM
May 2014

places with other people carrying guns, especially in bars, things should change.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
3. Safe?
Thu May 15, 2014, 09:01 AM
May 2014

The article touts "sweeping reforms" in states such as New York. It has never been illegal for a CCW holder to carry a concealed handgun in a church or bar in New York.

"Fellow dipsomaniac"? It remains illegal to carry a firearm while intoxicated in Georgia, as in New York.

Next?

 

clffrdjk

(905 posts)
5. Lol guy goes to a bar to get smashed
Thu May 15, 2014, 10:34 AM
May 2014

Mentions driving himself home.
Thinks having a gun in a bar and not being able to drink is a horribly unsafe idea.
Is this the best argument that can be made against this law?

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. Are lives worth less when inside a bar?
Thu May 15, 2014, 06:20 PM
May 2014

I am assuming from the way this reads folks who are carrying are allowed to drink...right?

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
9. Typical of the kind of post made by SecMo
Thu May 15, 2014, 08:41 PM
May 2014

Given that he never offers any discussion regarding the articles he posts

sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
8. I first thought of listing states that allow carry in bars
Thu May 15, 2014, 08:32 PM
May 2014

or other establishments that serve alcohol, but it is much easier to list the states that do not.

California
Hawaii
Illinois
Louisiana
North Carolina
Ohio
South Carolina
Wisconsin

The other 42 states allow guns to be carried in places that serve alcohol, usually with the restriction that the carrier may not drink alcohol.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
10. Illinois uses the 51% rule
Thu May 15, 2014, 09:43 PM
May 2014

If 51% or more of the revenue comes from alcohol - no carry.

Olive Garden, Applebee's etc. carry is OK unless posted.

 

BigAlanMac

(59 posts)
11. Ohio has had "restaurant carry" since Sept. 2011.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:22 AM
May 2014

All establishments that serve alcoholic beverages have to also serve food and have a restaurant license before they can get a liquor license.

Restaurant carry for Ohio was signed into law on June 30, 2011 and went into effect 90 days later.
The carrier must have a concealed carry license valid in the state of Ohio and not be drinking alcohol to be legal.

Quite a few states allow people to not only carry in liquor establishments but also imbibe as long as they don't exceed a certain BAC. Usually the same BAC limit set for driving an automobile.

As far as I know there have been no real problems with this going into effect other than some blissninnies getting their nickers in a twist.

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