Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumHas anyone posted a story about the Laptop Killer yet?
If you haven't heard about this, I suggest you go to this link:
http://lybio.net/tommy-jordan-facebook-parenting-for-the-troubled-teen/people/
and watch the video. I laughed my ass off!
If this has already been covered, my apologies.
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FredisDead
(392 posts)is because her father is an idiot.
tortoise1956
(671 posts)And exactly what do you base that opinion on? The fact that she dissed her Dad on Facebook? Or the fact that she tried to prevent her dad from reading it?
Sounds like she's a spoiled teenager. Pretty much normal for that age - I, and most of my friends, would have fit that description. I would say that his solution was creative. It sure got his point across!
FredisDead
(392 posts)in such a public fashion is not creative, this is something a conservative would do to their child.
This dumbass is a psychopath.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)tortoise1956
(671 posts)If you actually dug a little deeper, you'd find that even his daughter doesn't think of it as all that big a deal. I believe the exact words were,"Dude, it's a computer!"
Sounds like she's really been psychically traumatized...
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)tortoise1956
(671 posts)I have never read so many judgmental posts in one place before. It gets even worse when you realize that the video link was edited to remove his explanation of her chores, as well as the fact that the "Cleaning Lady" was a family friend who was doing this as part of a trade for services rendered.
Frankly, my biggest problem with his response was the use of a handgun. This situation could have been handled much better with a Mossberg 590!
S_B_Jackson
(906 posts)Paladin
(28,246 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)SteveW
(754 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Remmah2
(3,291 posts)
rl6214
(8,142 posts)or let out of her basement.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)rl6214
(8,142 posts)I thin you meant "you too".
Is the "gun culture" like "yogurt culture"? Do you buy it in the store? Thanks for the stereotyping, it unifies the pro-second amendment people.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I'm just going along with the wishes of those who see guns as a necessity when venturing out into public.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)I'm leery of a parent who uses a firearm as part of a discipline regimen.
Tuesday Afternoon
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spin
(17,493 posts)not the child.
To me that was a waste of ammo. If I would have decided to shoot a computer I would have set it up at 25 yards with a solid backstop and used it for target practice. However it is far more likely that I would have donated the computer to a person I felt would have could have used it productively. I know a number of people who find it difficult to find the money to buy a computer who would appreciate owning one. Such people often stop by our home and use ours.
This father needs to realize that often children are rebellious. In our age of easy access to smart phones and Facebook often immature people and sometimes mature people make posts which they often later regret. I have often witnessed younger people read a post on their phones or a computer by some other individual which infuriates them. They often rapidly reply and the anger escalates. I have often heard comments like, "I'm going to beat the shit out of him/her when I next see them." Of course I offer the wisdom that my age and experience has taught me which is largely ignored.
But most children today, as in the past, assume that they know everything. It doesn't matter how many adults attempt to tell them how real life works, they simply ignore advice.
However I have often witnessed young adults realize the value of the advice they were given when they get their first jobs. We live in a world where the media often portrays losers as "cool". Movies are fun to watch but they often fail to portray real life. The sad part is that many of our youth are unprepared by our failing school system and our media to face the reality of life. The good part is that they often learn quickly when they attempt to live on their own.
I feel the father in this video should learn more patience and realize that this phase of his daughter's development will pass. Of course, many years from now both the father and daughter may sit down and laugh about the incident. On the other hand if he continues to overreact, she may view him as a father who was excessively domineering and break off all relations with him which would be a tragedy.
In my opinion parents face a greater challenge today than parents when I grew up in the 50s and 60s. Back then there often were only three TV channels available and the programs taught that good guys wore white hats, there was no internet or cable TV, no smart phones and disciple was common and practiced in schools. Drugs such as marijuana were available in some areas of the nation and uncommon in other areas. Life was much simpler and jobs were readily available if a person wished to work.
But times always change and today parents face enormous challenges. Our society has changed considerably. I have to admit that I am glad that I don't have children to raise today.
ileus
(15,396 posts)I've never been much on destroying stuff that cost money.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)And that's exactly what the father in the now-infamous laptop-shooting video was doing. The fact that the violence was directed against his daughter's computer and not his daughter directly doesn't make it any less threatening. If I didn't like something that you said, and so I busted into your house and smashed your computer to pieces, would YOU not take that as an implicit threat that next time it might be you? That I was so filled with uncontrollable rage that I would destroy something valuable just for my revenge? And over some comments made on Facebook? If she had said them to him in person, would he have turned around and hit her? How much of a gap is there between being so angry that you'll premeditatedly take out a laptop and destroy it, and being so angry that you'll take a swing at someone?
That said, I find it frankly appalling to hear people justifying what he did, claiming that it was an appropriate response to her "disrespecting" him, or that she was "spoiled." You are horribly, horribly wrong. There is NO SCENARIO under which you are justified in threatening your child with violence, period. And if you cannot tell the difference between taking away privileges and violently destroying something for revenge, you should be reconsidering your parenting qualifications.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002299261
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)He didn't do his homework. Again.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Promises of chores and grounding, yes.
Nothing like some good old-fashioned manufactured moral hysteria, eh?
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)Sounds like he bought the computer and as such, if confiscated, he can do what he pleases with it. I don't see why shooting it makes difference than if he had pawned it or smashed it with a baseball bat.
Based on what he read in the letter and his comentary it sounds like the little brat was whining about what amounts to typical teenage chores... dishes, sweep the floor, make your bed. Heck, as a kid I had the trash, mowing, sweeping, doing the bed and made my mom tea when she asked for it. If I didn't do chores there was no Atari or playing at friends' house. And when I turned 15 I got a real job outside of school. The manner in which his daughter expressed her displeasure with what appears to be typical teenage chores was out of line - especially for having been already warned and grounded once for such behavior.
Personally, I would have used cheap FMJ practice bullets instead of $1/bullet JHP defense bullets.
That was a wasteful use of premium ammunition.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)1. I personally would not have reacted the way he did.
2. She needed to be put in her place. Badly.