Anyone here familiar with pistol permits in NY?

[Inkfreak]

Specifically in Upstate. Here's the situation... I'm looking to get a new job at a nuke plant as a guard. And I'll need a pistol permit to do so. I grabbed the application for my pistol permit and have my references. It seems pretty straightforward except where it wants me to check a box for the following:

1-carry concealed
2-possess on premises
3-possess/carry during employment

I'm assuming if I want it just for the job, I choose 3. But what if I'd like to get my carry concealed? If I check that box and it gets denied, do I not get a permit at all? And if I choose option 3 do I have to go through this process again someday if I do want to pursue the option of concealed carry?

And I don't have the job yet. I have yet to apply, though I've gotten assurances it's very likely, I have a clean record & am a vet. They ask why it's required, so do I just write down its for future employment?

Needless to say, just getting the permit is what's important. And I'm ok with just that. There's a bunch of Qs and I'd be thankful for any advice. I'll prolly head to the county clerks office to ask them the same questions but I'm outta town currently so I thought I'd ask here.

Thanks in advance.

[Shamash]

1. Start here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York

http://www.concealandcarryhq.com/index.php/new-york-concealed-carry-laws/

http://www.usacarry.com/new_york_concealed_carry_permit_information.html

[Inkfreak]

2. Thanks for the links.

Looks like I'd better just stick to getting the on premises/carry during employment. It looks like I won't be able to fufill the requirements for "cause" to get my concealed carry. I'm still unsure if me listing the reason for premises/carry during employment as "nuke plant job" is gonna cut it if I don't already have the job. Which puts me in a weird catch 22. Can't get the job without a permit, not sure if they'll allow me a permit just because.

But as I stated above, I've got a clean record. Feels like they're making it as irritating as possible to discourage people from obtaining one.

[Optical.Catalyst]

3. Get your possess/carry during employment first

You need the job. Do not take a chance on getting turned down for a job requirement by attempting to get your concealed carry at the same time. After you are licensed for work, go back and apply for personal carry.

[Straw Man]

4. The "employment" permit should come through more quickly ...

... and with less hassle. Get that, and then apply for your full carry. I think you can do it with an "amendment," not a whole new application.

[NightRainFalls]

5. Helping you out

I am the store manager of a gun shop, what county are you applying in. Every county is different. If you are in Wayne county I can help you out.

David

[Inkfreak]

6. I'm in Oswego county.

I think I'm about set. I ended up finding a retired sheriffs deputy. He said to check "concealed carry" and put down the following for reason why: seeking armed security employment, hunting, target shooting.

He said he doubts I'll get the CC but the judge will issue "premises/carry during employment." So now I got my safety class tomorrow and a few papers to get notarized along with finger prints. The process is kinda a pain, but worth it for the job. Thanks for the offer, though.

[GGJohn]

7. Wow!!!!

All the hoops y'all have to jump through to obtain a firearm, glad I live in AZ were we don't have to have a license to just even purchase a firearm, much less carry one.

[Inkfreak]

8. Yea. And I'm a vet with a crystal clear record.

-$20 for the application
-4 references (notarized) I'll pay that cause I don't want my friends to. $40
-release of family court records for mental health, notarized. $10
-reference from my boss, notarized. Which is s weird conversation...$10
-applications, 2 off them filled out, notarized. $10
-safety class, understandable. $40
-finger prints. $94.50
-2 months average wait till approval. $5 fee once issued.

And I believe I gotta renew it regularly.

It's a chore.