Tell me again how violators of new laws will be prosecuted when...

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

...violators of existing laws are not. Why would that be a reasonable conclusion?

Arrests in Baltimore for illegal guns often lead to dropped charges or little jail time
As Baltimore police and prosecutors race to tamp down a sustained spike in violence, many of the charges against people caught with illegal guns aren't sticking, or defendants are only jailed for a fraction of their sentence.

About one-quarter of such gun cases are dropped before defendants go to trial, according to a Baltimore Sun analysis. Even when convicted of illegally possessing a firearm, prosecutors say defendants are sentenced, on average, to 16 months in jail with a substantial portion of their sentences suspended.

.....

In one case, a 23-year-old man was granted bail after his arrest in the city with a fully loaded revolver and is now accused of fatally stabbing a man in Baltimore County five days after his release. The arrestee had a felony record and faced a mandatory five years in prison on the gun charge.

"There's no certainty of a consequence," Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said of the Baltimore justice system, adding that he believes carrying an illegal gun should be viewed as a "pre-murder" crime.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-gun-arrest-prosecutions-20161022-story.html

[Marengo]

1. it is more imperative to punish the moral bankruptcy of assault weapon owners.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

2. I wonder if the knife used had a...

...capacity of 11 or more....
Maybe it was an 'assault knife'.

[pablo_marmol]

3. Sadly, your 'bad science/bad religion' explanation is right on the money.

While claiming allegiance to a political party that holds the verdict of empirical evidence sacred, we go 'full hypocrisy' on the gun violence issue. This while insisting there there is little/no political fallout from our dishonesty, denying any dishonesty exists, or putting forth the "argument" that the fallout is worth the price given the "moral correctness" of the intellectually and morally bankrupt positions. Given that Mother Jones has published an article by an author who essentially says precisely what I've just said, and other left-leaning media sources like Salon and Vox have published articles questioning conventional "liberal wisdom" on gun control, it becomes quite dishonest to dismiss these points as right wing talking points.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/dan-baum-gun-guys-interview

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/20/an_ar_15_ban_wont_stop_mass_shootings_thats_like_regulating_drunk_driving_by_banning_scotch/

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/20/11975850/ar-15-owner-orlando

[ileus]

4. "fully loaded revolver" .....LOL

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

5. Maybe they were armor piercing...

[Duckhunter935]

6. Assault revolver

With a high capacity clip

[Kang Colby]

8. Crickets from the control oriented crowd.

This story plays out in D.C., Chicago, and so many other places. In fact, prior gun offenses are strongly correlated with homicide suspects.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

10. Any minute there will blood in the streets of those states...

...where CC requires no permit.

[Duckhunter935]

13. Interesting isn't it

Seems like they really are not interested in what could actually help.

[DonP]

11. I'm a little surprised

Normally by this time we'd have at least one of our control "fans" ranting about "Well, then why have any laws!" as their go to "rationale" for any and every new gun law, whether it is constitutional, actually works, or is ever enforced ... or not.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

12. I infer there's a boycott...

...due to recent absences and self-deleteds.
Revel in the peace; bask in the agreement.

[Eleanors38]

15. Perhaps they are suffering the consequences of clams casino.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

16. Well, I've often thought things with them...

...were a bit fishy but clammy is close to fishy.

[X_Digger]

20. Damn, You called that one. See a few posts down. :) n/t

[DonP]

22. They can't help themselves

It reminds me of that scene in Roger Rabbit.

When they were trying to find where Roger was hiding and they used the "Shave and a haircut ..." knock to draw him out.

Like the Rabbit, who comes screaming out of the woodwork singing; "TWO BITS!", control fans can't resist deploying one of their shrinking set of pointless bumper sticker memes.

This meme is a close second to the "Fewer gun owners" commandment.

[CreekDog]

17. Not all murderers are prosecuted, do you oppose laws against that?

do you oppose strengthening those laws?



not exactly sure what your purpose on Democratic Underground is, in fact, i never really have been sure, since arguing with you when you posted that government should stop recognizing all marriage right as it was about to be legalized for same sex couples nationwide.

what is it you do here?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

19. answers for you

Not all murderers are prosecuted, do you oppose laws against that?

I am in favor of laws against murder. I'm also in favor of not letting violent folks have guns. I'm okay with UBCs. I think it's time to stop fighting the drug war.

what is it you do here?

correspond

[Nuclear Unicorn]

21. You answer with deceptive phrasing.

"Not all murderers"

As if this is just a few isolated incidents, things so seldom as to be overall insignificant.

The article isn't about a few people being set free though they can be prosecuted for serious gun crimes, it's about the practice being so habitual as to be a de facto nullification of the law.

Yet, we're supposed to embrace laws that will make peaceable people into criminals or disarmed sheep as we watch violent criminals turned back out on to the streets.

The cynical side of me thinks the pro-Control advocates want violent criminals to be given free rein so they may exploit the ensuing mayhem to argue for gun control. Perhaps you could save me from this cynicism by answering for me:

What is the virtue of freeing the violent while disarming their victims?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

23. re: "What is the virtue of freeing the violent while disarming their victims?"

Makes for easy low risk police work, huh?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

28. Perhaps, and I know this probably sounds crazy but

maybe if violent, armed criminals weren't being turned loose the people wouldn't feel the need to arm themselves.

Then the gun control advocates would see their goal of reduced civilian ownership and they wouldn't even have to pass a law to realize it.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

29. Quite a logical suggestion

Violent criminals seem to have no problem arming themselves and not much of a problem being released and even being allowed to buy arms at retail while passing the often touted background check.

It seems to me that if a year or two is reasonable for theft of $1000 to $2000 dollars, 5 to 10 times that ought to be appropriate for violent offenses.

The BGC system seems broken which probably bears some investment. The drug war is giant waste. So much money and effort could do some good.

[Marengo]

24. Is your purpose to function as political commissar?

Let me guess, no true Democrat disagrees with you on any issue, in any way.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

25. Ahem...

...I feel that's just an NRA, RW, trump... talking point. Right?