Support for banning "assault weapons" (aka modern-looking civilian rifles) is now at record lows.

[benEzra]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/196658/support-assault-weapons-ban-record-low.aspx

50% of Dems and 69% of independents oppose an AWB. It appears that the Wall Street megabucks being dumped into pro-ban scaremongering aren't working.

[Duckhunter935]

1. I am part of the 61 percent

[pablo_marmol]

6. Dog bless you!

(So am I.)

[PdxSean]

2. Sandy Hook

When America wasn't moved by the tragedy of Sandy Hook, I stopped believing America could be moved.

[Travis_0004]

4. Rifles make up about 2% of all murders

And assault rifles are a subset of that. I don't see how a ban on certain cosmetic features is going to solve anything.

[pablo_marmol]

5. "Assault weapons"

When America was moved to believe that rifles should be banned based on the way they look rather than the way they function, I stopped believing that America could THINK.

[Duckhunter935]

7. Such a true statement

Of course we all know in Sandy Hook, it was not an assault weapon as Connecticut had an assault weapon ban in place.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

15. "assault weapons" to paraphrase a famous attorney

What's the best-selling single type of tire (rifle) being sold in the United States today?

The Michelin XGV. (semi-auto modular black .223)



And what's the most popular size (model)?

75R-14. (AR-15)

The most popular model of the most popular type of rifle sold today is the often misused by criminals.

Following that logic we ought to ban the most often used length of the most often used style of knives used in stabbings.

[beevul]

12. If you expect Americans to be moved...

If you expect Americans to be moved by a tragedy into blaming an object rather than the individual that misuses it, and you believe that most peoples minds actually work that way, you're going to be waiting a long time for a train that isn't going to come.

The absence of logic necessary to hold that position, absent a dislike or hatred of guns, is breathtaking.

[benEzra]

16. If the Sandy Hook murderer had used a straight-wooden-stocked rifle instead,

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how would that have changed anything at all? Stock shape doesn't make a small-caliber rifle any more, or less, lethal.



http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/specSheets/5802.html

Or if he had used his mother's big-bore semiautomatic shotgun or 9mm pistol instead of her small-caliber competition rifle?

[elehhhhna]

3. Gallup is a right leaning crapshow.

[DonP]

9. "Those grapes were probably sour anyway, said the fox"

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

10. An amusing way to phrase that

Another among us with a way for words has previously said:
"An inability to actually refute an opponent's argument is a concession that the argument is true."

[Nuclear Unicorn]

13. "said the fox"

I see what you did there.

[ileus]

8. When the 1%ers want to tell you what to do....

Tell them to fuck off.

Now if only we could explain what an assault weapon is those numbers would drop more.

[Eleanors38]

14. These graphs indicate the American public has considered the arguments...

...and found the controllers' explanations wanting. Despite he misuse of terminology, the obfuscation of technical points and the appeals to emotion, it has seen through the fog. These data strongly suggest that the influence of MSM, esp. when it mumbles the same arguments over and over, is in decline. Perhaps more fundamentally, the armed civilian population is truly re-arming, as it is wont to do over the decades. Semi-auto weapons, including carbines, are replacing the old .38s and the shotgun standing in the corner of the kitchen.

[beevul]

18. Support for AWB way way down.

Support for alert stalking, appears way way UP.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

19. When all you have is an alert link and a rec link...

...every thing starts to look like either our best friend or our worst enemy.

The only thing worse than that is this guy I used to work for. A co-worker characterized Geoff best and most concisely by saying, "The only he hates more than a yes man is someone who doesn't agree with him."

[DonP]

20. Mere "tuning out" isn't good enough for some of them anymore

I've noticed a very obvious need by the control "fans" to assure that the source of anything that even vaguely challenges their closely held belief systems is totally and loudly discredited, along with anyone that dares bring it to their attention.

Since their memes won't stand up to any scrutiny, I guess they feel the need to quash and silence anyone that dares to post actual news or facts that counter the tenets of their "faith".

They hate the 2nd amendment and aren't too fond of the 1st either it seems.

[Duckhunter935]

21. Yes indeed one alerts on me a lot

Calculus is interesting

[pablo_marmol]

22. Yet our future Commander in Chief wants to ban them.

That'll be a real winner w/regard to our efforts in converting red states to blue.

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/10/30/9-ways-hillary-clintons-gun-control-plan-could-cha.aspx

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

23. Wrote an OP with those points as the topic

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172200723

Thanks

[pablo_marmol]

24. No.....THANK YOU!

Glad that some of the lefty RKBA supporters are engaged in actual heavy lifting by constructing lengthy and thoughtful OPs! I've been too busy, too pissed off, and too depressed to do so lately. Just don't have the time and inclination to start & follow what may become a lengthy discussion.

So good onya, D_I_S. I'll breath a bit easier once Hillary is elected, but we'll still have to deal with the Trumpanzees. A daunting thought, to say the very least.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

25. You're welcome

No charge

[pablo_marmol]

26. When even Vox publishes a positive article about the AR 15.......

........you know that the times, they are a changin'.

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/20/11975850/ar-15-owner-orlando

[pablo_marmol]

27. Another article from the same author (^^) that explains why the AR is popular:

https://www.wired.com/2013/02/ar-15/

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

27. Another AWB is surely a key part of success for future Democrats

[Puha Ekapi_2]

28. Yes....

...truly, it is

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

29. Advocating another AWB is marginally smarter than suggesting...

...that the surgeon put those kidney stones back in.....


...or maybe not.