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muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
Tue May 1, 2018, 07:57 AM May 2018

What the world really needs to ban: a gun designed to look like a phone

The ground breaking Ideal Conceal is a carefully engineered double barreled .380 caliber people can safely carry in their purse or clipped to their side. Ingeniously designed to resemble a smartphone, yet with one click of the safety it opens and is ready to fire.

The product was designed with safety as a priority. A brand everyone can trust, a piece they can rely on, over and over.

https://www.idealconceal.com/product/double-barreled-380-caliber/

This endangers people. Not necessarily the people who buy this, or the people they might think about shooting with it, but the people with actual phones who will get shot by assholes who give as their excuse "there are guns that look like phones, I thought it could be one of those".
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What the world really needs to ban: a gun designed to look like a phone (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler May 2018 OP
There are already phones that look they might be guns. Girard442 May 2018 #1
Maybe an acceptable option for folks who OC... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2018 #2
The 'law' problem is police officers who shoot people with phones, as noted above muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #3
Sorry about the missing sarcasm tag discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2018 #9
Heh - sorry, I forgot your user name, too ... (nt) muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #10
I'm slipping discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2018 #12
This thing will barely sell, especially if the ATF rules it a AOW. DetroitLegalBeagle May 2018 #5
probably not, gejohnston May 2018 #7
Agreed n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2018 #11
Know a fellow who has this The Mouth May 2018 #15
a two shot gejohnston May 2018 #4
Gee! This is a nightmare. What kind of world are we creating? Doodley May 2018 #6
As if cops aren't shooting people using for-real phones already. (nt) Paladin May 2018 #8
$600 for a 2 shot derringer? melm00se May 2018 #13
I legally carry a concealed handgun because it could prove very ... spin May 2018 #14

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
2. Maybe an acceptable option for folks who OC...
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:16 AM
May 2018

...in places OC is acceptable. This would be more like 'discrete' carry. Packing a gun that looks like a phone in the open won't likely equal concealed carry in the eyes of the law. I'm not seeing this as a very useful product but more of a novelty. So, it will probably sell like hotcakes.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
3. The 'law' problem is police officers who shoot people with phones, as noted above
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:24 AM
May 2018

and such assholes will now have even better chances of getting off when killing innocent people.

No, it's not useful; it's dangerous, to society.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
9. Sorry about the missing sarcasm tag
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:05 PM
May 2018

This is kind of a really stupid toy.
Two shots may not be enough in an actual SD encounter.
LE encounters may end badly for many.

This is probably best left to the secret agents and paranoid drug pushers.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,919 posts)
5. This thing will barely sell, especially if the ATF rules it a AOW.
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:38 AM
May 2018

Guns disguised as other objects have been around since, well, since there were guns. They are Federally regulated already under the NFA. They are classified as AOW's and the process to get approval for one is similar to that to get a machine gun, silencer, or sawed off.

I have no idea how this won't get ruled an AOW by the ATF as its purposely designed to look like something other then a gun.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. a two shot
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:35 AM
May 2018

over sized .380 for $575 MSRP. I have yet to see one in a gun shop, and yet to see it mentioned in a gun blog. The free market will ban it for you.

melm00se

(4,989 posts)
13. $600 for a 2 shot derringer?
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:43 PM
May 2018

That puts it in the novelty category.
like umbrella/cigarette pack/lock/pen/butane lighter guns.

it'll be one of those things sitting in gun collection with a notation "Developed in 2017, less than 500 were sold before being discontinued" or it'll be on a website like this

spin

(17,493 posts)
14. I legally carry a concealed handgun because it could prove very ...
Thu May 3, 2018, 09:44 PM
May 2018

Last edited Thu May 3, 2018, 11:41 PM - Edit history (1)

useful to stop an attack by an individual who has the intention of putting me in a hospital for an extended period or six feet under and has the ability to do so.

In my opinion two .380 caliber rounds fired from what is effectively a derringer lacks the stopping power to be capable of accomplishing this purpose.



I prefer to carry a .38+P S&W Model 642 revolver in my pants pocket. It holds 5 rounds of significantly more powerful ammo and I can merely put my hand in my pocket and draw the revolver and it’s ready to fire. No fiddling around to turn it from something that looks like a phone to a weapon. Plus I can buy the Model 642 with laser sights for less than the Ideal Conceal.



Another factor is that if I am attacked it is quite possible that drawing a snub nosed revolver will deter my attacker and cause him to run away. That may not happen if I grab something that looks like a cell phone from my belt and point it at my attacker. I have no desire to ever have to shoot someone unless it is absolutely necessary. Of course I would never pull my weapon unless I thought the situation met those requirements. However if the attacker turned and ran before I could pull the trigger that would be fine with me.

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