New York Governor Cuomo Beefs up Gun Laws

[jpak]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/new-york-arsenal-gun-control-bills

ALBANY — If Gov. Cuomo’s appetite for more gun control is serious, there’s no shortage of bills on the menu.

From microstamping shell casings and banning assault weapons, to toughening penalties for lax storage, teaching anti-gun violence in schools and providing tax credits for the purchase of gun safety equipment, lawmakers are pushing more than a dozen measures to beef up New York’s already tough gun-control laws.

Cuomo last week called the increase in gun violence “undeniable” following the massacres in Colorado and Wisconsin, as well as shootings in the city.

But if Republicans retain control of the state Senate in November, Cuomo’s storied arm-twisting abilities could be tested when the Legislature reconvenes next year.

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[Reasonable_Argument]

1. Hum

providing tax credits for the purchase of gun safety equipment

That's the only part I'd be ok with. Hopefully his attempt at further limiting the constitutional rights of the citizens of his state is unsuccessful.

[rl6214]

25. Now that's the sort of thing I could get behind

certainly beats the normal attitude of the prohibitionists of just wantint to take away.

[ileus]

2. tax credits for gun safes would be nice.

[X_Digger]

3. *yawn* Will fingernail files be registered, too?

I mean, since that's all it takes to defeat microstamping.

How's that CoBIS system working out, again? Oh right, they scrapped it as useless.

[Hoyt]

6. Are you going to use that on your guns? Besides, what's wrong with teaching gun violence in schools.

You afraid it might reduce the potential market for the guns you are hoarding for profit?

[X_Digger]

8. Oh, I wouldn't have to.. after 200-300 rounds, it would be illegible.

Just goes to show how moronic the idea is.

But of course the idea isn't to actually trace guns, it's to make the patent holder rich, while increasing the cost of firearms.

[Hoyt]

9. I don't thing most gun cultist are as devious as some here, and m-stamping, tougher registration,

investigating people just like we do we explosives, etc., is needed.

We need to start teaching that guns are as wrong as smoking in public; polluting; flying confederate flags (which most inclined are also gun cultists); torturing horses for Dressage; spousal abuse (which guns play a big part); and all that lame crud. Might as well start now.

[X_Digger]

10. Nice of you to drop the moronic microstamping.

When are you going to start your education campaign? Donated to any causes espousing your ideas? Or are you just.. pontificating on DU?

[rDigital]

12. Put your money where your mouth is and make it all happen, BigBoy. nt

[Hoyt]

14. LMAO.

[rDigital]

29. Oh come on, you and Bloomie could be buddies!

You could hang out at gun shows, get in touch with your inner billionaire, have your own armed security, melt some guns on TV and teach children about "evil toters". It'd be a great way to get in touch with your authoritarian side.

At least think it over a little. You know you'd love it.

[Hoyt]

31. Don't have armed security, but I have experience with yahoos at gun shows.

[rDigital]

32. Tell us more, Gun Jesus. Maybe Gun Moses could join the conversation as well. nt

[Hoyt]

33. Not into Christian Crud, or Constitution with respect to gun abuse pervasive in this society.

[rDigital]

34. You must save us, Gun Jesus. Our souls are unclean.

It's up to you to rescue us from the fires of freedom and the eternal damnation of the evil metal Satan(guns). We devote ourselves to thee O' Lord of the Gungeon! Set us free from this torment and discount ammunition!

Amen!

[Hoyt]

38. I agree, you could definitely use some help.

[Reasonable_Argument]

13. Nope

See there's the problem, I have no problem with something like the NRA's "Eddie Eagle" classes in school but I'll be damned if I'll support a class that demonizes gun ownership.

[Hoyt]

15. Fine, you could home school your kids, or get private gun "instructor. "

[Jenoch]

19. Huh?

How can the guns themselves be 'wrong'? Of course the misuse of guns is wrong, but the misuse of a lot of things is wrong. Drinking and driving is of course wrong, but is the automobile 'wrong'? How is that even possible?

[Hoyt]

21. Fine, many consider toting wrong, for starters.

[Equate]

27. Who cares what others consider wrong?

The law says it's legal so it's not wrong.

[Major Hogwash]

42. We, the people, of Rock Ridge, sincerely hope that you enjoy your pizza!

There's plenty more where that came from!

[Equate]

20. Got any other insults to add?

Cuz that's about all I see from you. Why not try to add positively to the debate? You might actually have something we can learn,

Oh, who am I kidding?
Just for the record, microstamping is a waste of time and money and probably won't solve one crime. All one has to do is just fire off about 50 rnds and the stamp won't be readable, how do you propose to fix that problem?

Face it, your all hat with no head to put it on.

[Hoyt]

23. That's what NRA hacks say.

[Equate]

28. Yeah, I notice that's what you guys say when you have no answer

That's when we know that you all have lost the debate, you start with the NRA bad, NRA evil, NRA talking points, etc.
Well, I expected nothing less. Have a good night and I'll probably talk atcha tomorrow.

[Travis_0004]

11. It would be very easy to file down a firing pin to make microstamping ineffective

Or just replace the firing pin. I don't think a lot of people realize how easy it is to replace a firing pin. On my AR-15, I could swap a firing pin in 2 minutes. In fact, every tme the gun is cleaned the firing pin is removed. Its part of the cleaning process.

Or plan B, use a revolver.

[Hoyt]

18. It doesn't have to work all the time, even half the time.

If you decide to carry a revolver because you are afraid you might need to skedatal, police would still be able to get useful info. I really believe some of you are afraid of incriminating yourself if m-stamping were law.

[Equate]

22. It won't even work 1/100th of the time.

Why waste the time and taxpayer's money with a useless law? Surely the money can be better spent? What, if any, would your solution be to the problem of the stamp wearing off after about 50-100 rnds being fired off?

[Hoyt]

24. Wouldn't waste taxpayers money, just those addicted to dang things.

[Equate]

26. That doesn't even make any sense.

[Travis_0004]

36. He is saying an ineffective law is fine as long as it makes gun ownership more expensive

Apparently, he thinks that poor people shouldn't own guns (since making them more expensive would hurt poor people the most).

[TPaine7]

35. "...what's wrong with teaching gun violence in schools?"

I can think of a few things.

Aren't you supposed to be less obvious, Hoyt?

[Trunk Monkey]

37. If you deal with the root causes of the violence

the guns won't be an issue

[HALO141]

4. "anti-gun violence"

I guess that means beating up everyone that owns or wants a gun. (shrug)

[Hoyt]

7. God knows, they shouldn't show kids with bullet holes in their heads, like the did car accidents in

driver ed classes.

[rDigital]

30. Thanks for playing : )

The content of your posts are so far fetched and so full of stovepipe hippie insanity nonsense that they should be part of a masters level course in destroying your own cause.

I just want to know, how much is the NRA paying you guys to cluck like chickens?

My partner and I are in stitches over reading your comic gems. Please please please: more posts like this one!

[Major Hogwash]

40. Enjoy the pizza.

Courtesy of the DU MIRT team.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

41. WOW

16 minutes... such a short life for such an rude fellow

[krispos42]

5. Teaching anti-gun violence in school?

Huh? Were they teaching pro-gun violence in school before? Are they not going to mention non-gun violence? Or is this just the typical fixation on the object rather than the problem?


Are they going to discourage gun ownership? Is it right and proper for the government to encourage restriction and non-exercise of a constitutional right?

[Jenoch]

16. What exactly does

"teaching anti-gun violence in schools" actually mean? Will it be the teachers telling the students how bad guns are?

What should be taught in the schools is gun safety so if any of the students to happen to come across a gun they know enough about guns to not shoot themselves or others. Too often some idiot kid who does not know anything about guns thought the gun was 'empty' because they removed the magazine and are too ignorant of guns to realize there is or could be a round in the chamber.

[Jenoch]

17. ...double post...