Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:57 PM Oct 2012

Raufoss, Lapua, BMG...

This is a repost of a reply I made a while back to a knowledgeable poster who wrote critically about the MSM characterization "High powered assault rifle." For those who've read this before and/or who have this information, my apologies.

These are terms whose significance is lost on most of the public. It has been my experience that any general details of ballistics are held as some mix of boring and complex. Specific details of works authored by experts such as Dr. Roberts for example: < http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2008Intl/Roberts.pdf > among others, are viewed the same way with somewhat gruesome overtones. The idea that scientific means exist to design and evaluate the incapacitating effects of a weapon system is disgusting and contrary to the beliefs of many in the anti-gun camp.

IMHO:
- "High powered assault rifle" has origins similar to "double secret probation". A high powered rifle is a "bad" thing. An assault rifle is a "bad" thing. Form a conjunction of those terms and the object described has to be a "worse" thing.
- Often, the worst inaccuracies are perpetrated when those credentialed, charismatic and popular writers and speakers publicize their emotion based opinions.

It is an odd mixture of my own feelings to view these anti-gun pundits with anger, sympathy and pity; anger for trying to teach others based on their emotional prejudices, sympathy for their ideological goals and pity for the knowledge of their rather certain self-frustration of their cause.

2 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Raufoss, Lapua, BMG... (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 OP
Science is always cold, calculating and amoral. Subject matter notwithstanding. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #1
"Pundit"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #2

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
1. Science is always cold, calculating and amoral. Subject matter notwithstanding.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:42 PM
Oct 2012

There are some pundits that place BB guns in the "high powered" classification.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
2. "Pundit"...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

1: a learned man
2: a person who gives opinions in an authoritative manner usually through the mass media

I suggest that meaning #2 fits such folks much better than #1. I also note that meaning #2 prefers popularity to skill. This propagates misinformation and/or lies.

High powered my ass! Pundits are nearly worthless.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Raufoss, Lapua, BMG...