Guns in bars is a great idea!!

[MichaelHarris]

"Two die in the shooting that started with an altercation in a bar Witnesses tell of a gunman screaming and shooting The midnight fireworks show is canceled. The shots rang out in Old Sacramento, when a fight at a sports bar spilled out into the street, police said."

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/component/k2/item/235372-two-killed-in-new-year-s-shooting

[no_hypocrisy]

1. It didnt' work in the Wild, Wild West and

it didn't work in Hollywood with Henry Fonda and Walter Brennan.

[MichaelHarris]

10. the irony is

this bar had an armed guard who didn't stop the shooting and actually contributed to the violence. So much for the NRA's good guy with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun. All it led to was bullets flying, people dying, and people bleeding.

[ileus]

2. Did these guys have their CCW's? Is it legal to carry in a "bar" in California?

[GreenStormCloud]

3. Both were almost certainly criminals. No one here supports arming criminals.

Everyone here, and the NRA, agree that armed criminals are dangerous and should not have guns. You consistenly refuse to distinguish between law-abiding gun owners and criminals with guns.

[ileus]

5. Some won't let go of prejudices...

it's the old "hidden criminal" thought process.

[thucythucy]

6. How do you know

they were "most certainly criminals"?

The story I read didn't mention any details about the shooters.

[gejohnston]

7. having a gun in a bar in California

for starters.

[GreenStormCloud]

8. It is extremely rare for shooting someone to be a first criminal offense.

Criminology is a well studied field. When someone illegally shoots another, they almost always have a lengthy criminal record. For that matter, most murder victims also have criminal records.

[jeepnstein]

9. The odds are pretty good...

that it was not a legal permit holder doing the shooting. Mr. Harris, once again, is trying to make his case without much regard for the facts of the case.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. Unlawful to carry a loaded weapon into a bar.

Probably unlawful to carry even an empty one.

[gejohnston]

4. will this hurt California's Brady score?

that claims how safe and wonderful the place is?

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

11. No worse than bars that have parking lots.

In either case, the use of either potentially dangerous item is strictly forbidden while under the influence of alcohol.

[Ashgrey77]

13. Carrying in bars has been legal in Colorado for years.

And we haven't had any "bloodbaths" because of it. If you are going to carry in the bar here, it's real simple, don't drink.