If this is the case, Mr. Snowden has just given aid to the enemy..

[PeggyKR]

Mr. Snowden may have just taught our enemies how to HIDE themselves from our intelligence organizations...and isn't that just...LOVELY? NOT. I have never thought Mr. Snowden to be a hero of any kind and never will..

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html?smid=fb-share

[Scuba]

1. We have enemies? You mean the Republicans and their masters?

They already knew this shit. They own it.

[mike_c]

2. sunlight is the best disinfectant....

You support widespread surveillance without probable cause?

[PeggyKR]

10. I didn't say that.

I am not saying it's without warrant. Our enemies, and yes we have them, and YES I am a STRONG liberal democrat, have changed with the times. CYBER-SECURITY is THE threat of our times. They have changed their means, their targets, their strategies. All this surveillance is not for....nothing. I don't believe. To each his own.

[mike_c]

15. yeah well-- I'm still happy to see these bastards exposed....

If they're not doing anything wrong, they have nothing to fear, LOL.

[mindwalker_i]

18. "CYBER-SECURITY is THE threat of our times"

I've heard this said a lot, but don't know what the evidence is for it. Granted, our infrastructure, like power, is probably very open to attack and I'm sure other infrastructure is as well but the solution to these problems is not to ignore them or try to prevent people from exposing the flaws. The solution is to fix the flaws.

If this is what you're referring to, then Snowden makes little difference. Eventually someone will find the flaws and exploit them, so having them exposed now is probably a good thing rather than find out they've been hacked months or years later.

As for releasing information not specifically targeted to just what the government is doing to us, that's true. Snowden released a lot of information, a lot of it very relevant to us, some that could be used against us. I'll take the slight increase in risk to shine light on the criminal things our government does.

When the founders of this country gave England the finger, they took some risk to get their freedom. We should be willing to take some risk to keep it.

[Cicada]

3. Jonas Salk also gave aid to our enemies

Snowden helped me with this info, not just enemies

[PeggyKR]

13. and....

You feel safer for knowing?

[upaloopa]

4. You wouldn't be talking about any of this

if it hadn't been for Snowden
Maybe not your hero but a hero to millions around the world.

[PeggyKR]

6. He's a hero to many indeed..not to me.

Even Richard Clarke, former terrorism czar and cyber security expert agrees and said this a short time ago:


"IF THIS IS TRUE, then Snowden has just helped Iran, China, terrorists and others by telling them how to stop US intelligence collection on them. Seems to me these are legitimate intelligence collection. NSA should be doing this to protect he US.

So do you still think that Snowden should be given the Nobel Peace Prize? He has crossed the line several times and is demonstrably making us less safe. Its clear cut." Richard Clarke.

[upaloopa]

19. Seems to me we don't know shit about the NSA

intelegence gathering and what we do know is because of Snowden.

[Wilms]

5. You're providing comfort to the enemies of the Constitution.

Go live in one of the countries that lack even a veneer of democracy and let us know how it works out.

K?

[PeggyKR]

8. Exactly!

We are living in different times now. Our enemies have shifted their means, their strategies, their targets. I don't believe for a minute this is all useless surveillance.

[GodlessBiker]

7. Well, he may just have taught us how to hide ourselves from our intelligence organizations.

It appears that is becoming more and more necessary.

[PeggyKR]

9. That's true.

And isn't that just lovely? Should we be worried about you?

[GodlessBiker]

11. Now, don't tell me that the only people who need the right to remain silent...

are those who have something to hide.

[PeggyKR]

12. No.

I didn't say that. Just asking.

[SaltyBro]

14. This person seems like a troll

n/t

[PeggyKR]

17. Maybe..

maybe it is a troll..

[WhiteTara]

20. lol

[PeggyKR]

16. Tomorrow

tomorrow the President will speak on this topic. I will withhold judgment until then.

[bemildred]

21. I thought he as hiding from the drones in Russia.

Anyway, nobody can hide from the drones, sooner or later they are going to light you up.

[PeggyKR]

22. Russia?

No one hides from anything...in Russia.

[bemildred]

23. Being incoherent won't help. nt