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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 06:11 AM Jul 2014

Gen. Dempsey: We're Pulling Out Our Cold War Military Plans over Ukraine

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/07/25/gen-dempsey-were-pulling-out-our-cold-war-military-plans-over-ukraine



Chairman of the Joint Chiefs compares Russia activities to Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939; State Department makes new claims, but won't show the evidence

Gen. Dempsey: We're Pulling Out Our Cold War Military Plans over Ukraine
Jon Queally, staff writer
Friday, July 25, 2014

Hours after the U.S. State Department on Thursday claimed (though failed to describe) new evidence that Russia's military was both increasing the flow of arms to rebel fighters in eastern Ukraine and firing artillery at Ukrainian Army positions across its border, Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey elevated the rhetoric against Russian President Vladimir Putin and directly invoked the idea that a new Cold War-like posture is now being taken by the U.S. military.

Speaking from the Aspen Security Forum, a defense industry conference in Colorado, Dempsey said Pentagon planners are now looking at military options “we haven’t had to look at for 20 years" and warned that Putin—whom he characterized as escalating the crisis inside Ukraine—“may actually light a fire” he cannot control. And not just in Ukraine or eastern Europe, Dempsey said, but globally.

Drawing a dramatic historical comparison, Dempsey equated Putin's alleged involvement in eastern Ukraine to the Soviet Union's invasion of Poland in 1939.

“It does change the situation. You’ve got a Russian government that has made a conscious decision to use its military force inside another sovereign nation to achieve its objectives. It’s the first time since 1939 or so that that’s been the case,” Dempsey said. “They clearly are on a path to assert themselves differently not just in Eastern Europe, but Europe in the main, and towards the United States.”
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Gen. Dempsey: We're Pulling Out Our Cold War Military Plans over Ukraine (Original Post) unhappycamper Jul 2014 OP
Whilst on Thursday he'd said dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #1
The Cold War is over Harolynn Jul 2014 #2
LIving in the past, fearing for the future, that's our "defense" department. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #3
Let's look at what he said again, and remove the word "Russian" dixiegrrrrl Jul 2014 #4
"A war-weary public can be awakened and rallied. Indeed, events are right now doing the awakening. MisterP Jul 2014 #5

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. Whilst on Thursday he'd said
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 06:20 AM
Jul 2014

Russia's military is likely a reluctant participant in Ukraine's conflict, the top U.S. military officer said on Thursday, adding that although he had not spoken to his Moscow counterpart in about two months he was keeping an open line of communication.

"I think the Russian military and its leaders that I know are probably somewhat reluctant participants in this form of warfare," General Martin Dempsey said, noting Russia's use of both conventional forces along the border and of proxies inside the country.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-dempsey-idUSKBN0FU0A520140725

Harolynn

(3 posts)
2. The Cold War is over
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 07:07 AM
Jul 2014

Though I do feel that Putin is taking advantage of America's 'war fatigue,' I would be hard pressed to believe he will win whatever he is trying to get. Hopefully Dempsey will be more creative than looking at old war plans.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Let's look at what he said again, and remove the word "Russian"
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 09:11 AM
Jul 2014

"You’ve got a government that has made a conscious decision to use its military force inside another sovereign nation to achieve its objectives."

Then they wonder why they have no credibility at home or abroad.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
5. "A war-weary public can be awakened and rallied. Indeed, events are right now doing the awakening.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jul 2014

All that’s needed is the rallying" --Kristol

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