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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:03 AM Sep 2013

Syria chemical weapons attack not ordered by Assad, says German press

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/08/syria-chemical-weapons-attack-not-ordered-by-assad-says-german-press/

Syria chemical weapons attack not ordered by Assad, says German press
By Simon Tisdall, The Guardian
Sunday, September 8, 2013 13:59 EDT

President Bashar al-Assad did not personally order last month’s chemical weapons attack near Damascus that has triggered calls for US military intervention, and blocked numerous requests from his military commanders to use chemical weapons against regime opponents in recent months, a German newspaper has reported , citing unidentified, high-level national security sources.

The intelligence findings were based on phone calls intercepted by a German surveillance ship operated by the BND, the German intelligence service, and deployed off the Syrian coast, Bild am Sonntag said. The intercepted communications suggested Assad, who is accused of war crimes by the west including foreign secretary William Hague, was not himself involved in last month’s attack or in other instances when government forces have allegedly used chemical weapons.

Assad sought to exonerate himself from the August attack in which hundreds died. “There has been no evidence that I used chemical weapons against my own people,” he said in an interview with CBS.

But the intercepts tended to add weight to the claims of the Obama administration and Britain and France that elements of the Assad regime, and not renegade rebel groups, were responsible for the attack in the suburb of Ghouta, Bild said.



[i[unhappycamper comment: Strange that NSA didn't tell that to President Obama. But then again, the spy bidness is strange.
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Syria chemical weapons attack not ordered by Assad, says German press (Original Post) unhappycamper Sep 2013 OP
I've been wondering about this as well... KansDem Sep 2013 #1
Guilty SamKnause Sep 2013 #2
I have a few questions. resistance08 Sep 2013 #3
Because: The Straight Story Sep 2013 #4
Oh and: The Straight Story Sep 2013 #5
and also many in the region think of the US as a Paper Tiger BainsBane Sep 2013 #6

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
1. I've been wondering about this as well...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:09 AM
Sep 2013

Last edited Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:12 AM - Edit history (1)

The intelligence findings were based on phone calls intercepted by a German surveillance ship operated by the BND, the German intelligence service...

The NSA collects a billion communications a day but for some strange reason the US doesn't know who authorized the attacks and who made and supplied the gas?


We know...

edited to add preposition

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
2. Guilty
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:24 AM
Sep 2013

He does not have have to be guilty.

He just has to be accused by the mighty and moral empire.

U.S.; judge, jury and executioners.

 

resistance08

(8 posts)
3. I have a few questions.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 06:47 AM
Sep 2013

Why would the Syrian Govt or its elements use chemical weapons, when they know it is the "red line"?

Why would they use chemical weapons,when they know it would lead to a lot of collateral damage and an erosion of their support?

Why would they use them, when they are already winning the war?

What would the so-called govt elements gain by taking such a huge risk?

It seems ridiculous that Assad or even govt elements, would gas their own people. These news articles are merely for propaganda purposes and the eventual aim is money and power for the elites by making war.


The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
4. Because:
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:25 AM
Sep 2013

1. People in power tend to do stupid things (called ego)
2. They probably know the world won't care. They have Russia and China in their corner, playing the west like a fiddle because they know we will see obama as bush and think all wars are the same (and are war weary).
3. They gain adding fear into their enemies and causing more sunni's to flee the country.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
5. Oh and:
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:27 AM
Sep 2013

You can get away with gassing your own people all day long.

No one cares because you own them, they are yours to use. Who is gonna get involved? Who will even care what you do to people?

Obviously not liberals and democrats or republicans and rw'ers. We are all unified in letting the 1% do as they please and simply smile and go back to our football games.

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