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douglas9

(4,358 posts)
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 03:32 PM Mar 2021

A Year Into Pandemic, Veterans Halls 'Barely Hanging' On

NEW BEDFORD, Mass. (AP) — Paul Guilbeault knew the writing was on the wall for the last Veterans of Foreign Wars post in this city south of Boston when businesses across Massachusetts were ordered to close as the coronavirus pandemic took hold last March.

Within six months, the 90-year-old Korean War vet was proven right. VFW Post 3260 in New Bedford, a chapter of the national fraternity of war vets established in 1935, had surrendered its charter and sold the hall to a church.

“The economic shutdown is what killed us,” said Guilbeault, who has overseen the post’s finances for years. “There’s no way in the world that we could make it. A lot of these posts are barely hanging on. Most don’t make a huge profit.”

Local bars and halls run by VFW and American Legion posts — those community staples where vets commiserate over beers and people celebrate weddings and other milestones — were already struggling when the pandemic hit. After years of declining membership, restrictions meant to slow the spread of COVID-19 became a death blow for many.

The closures have added to the misery from a pandemic that’s hit military veterans hard. The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs recently estimated the death toll in its facilities alone was approaching 11,000.

In many states, veterans posts were ordered to close like other bars and event halls last spring. Their supporters argued that the spaces serve a greater community purpose than their for-profit counterparts and should have been allowed to reopen sooner.

https://www.courthousenews.com/a-year-into-pandemic-veterans-halls-barely-hanging-on/

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A Year Into Pandemic, Veterans Halls 'Barely Hanging' On (Original Post) douglas9 Mar 2021 OP
I personally will not miss them. Almost everyone I've been is a little pocket Twoflower Mar 2021 #1
Almost every gathering of veterans I have ever attended has been a festering swamp of hate Aristus Mar 2021 #2
I can only speak to the VFWs near my home in Tulsa. Runningdawg Mar 2021 #3
Wait...VFW's are "for profit"? ret5hd Mar 2021 #4
Who thinks its a good snowybirdie Mar 2021 #5

Twoflower

(1,019 posts)
1. I personally will not miss them. Almost everyone I've been is a little pocket
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 03:50 PM
Mar 2021

of hate, filled with MAGA assholes and clanish bikers.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
2. Almost every gathering of veterans I have ever attended has been a festering swamp of hate
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 04:06 PM
Mar 2021

and resentment.

My wife encouraged me to join the veterans' support group at our (now former) church. I wanted to help veterans who may be suffering from depression or PTSD.

I lasted only a few meetings. They were just bitch-sessions for Vietnam Veterans who insisted "We coulda won it if the guvmint had let us!..."

I never revealed my political leanings, but they made it clear how much they hated liberals. I bugged out pretty quick...

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
3. I can only speak to the VFWs near my home in Tulsa.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 04:24 PM
Mar 2021

They never closed, never followed any restrictions and most customers were old and high risk. It's very sad. Those few that stayed away probably lost a lot of friends.

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
4. Wait...VFW's are "for profit"?
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 05:09 PM
Mar 2021

Where does the profit go?

Frankly, I never thought about it. I always assumed they were not-for-profit, like a 501c3 or whatever.

snowybirdie

(5,222 posts)
5. Who thinks its a good
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 06:29 PM
Mar 2021

idea to bring a bunch of senior citizens together, drinking and in an enclosed space? Of course they must remain closed as per local ordinance.

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